Lisa Montgomery's execution now set for Jan. 12, giving time for clemency application

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Should Montgomery be granted clemency and the death penalty commuted?

  1. No let the wheels of justice turn and complete what she brought upon herself.

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  2. Yes Biden should stop this execution as soon as he takes office.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is about Biden and the goal here to get extensions of the date until he is President and his vows to oppose the death penalty.
     
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    And here we go again

    Judge halts Lisa Montgomery execution to check mental status
    A judge has halted the U.S. government's first execution of a female inmate in nearly seven decades, saying a court must first determine whether the Kansas woman who killed an expectant mother, cut the baby from her womb and then tried to pass off the newborn as her own is mentally competent...

    ...Prosecutors said her motive was that Montgomery's ex-husband knew she had undergone a tubal ligation that made her sterile and planned to reveal she was lying about being pregnant in an effort to get custody of two of their four children. Needing a baby before a fast-approaching court date, Montgomery turned her focus on Stinnett, whom she had met at dog shows....

    ...But the jurors who heard the case, some crying through the gruesome testimony, disregarded the defense in convicting her of kidnapping resulting in death.
    Judge halts Lisa Montgomery execution to check mental status (msn.com)

    She had that opportunity at trial and failed. She knew what she was doing having planned it out and knew it was wrong. Evil is not a mental illness. Sitting in her death row cell claiming to hear voices and see things is not reason to halt her execution another minute. But it seems it will now go passed the inauguration. So the question again will Biden issue a pardon? All the ruckus about Trump issuing pardons will Biden do this and go against the will of the jury?
     
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    Supreme Court vacated the stay and society has rid itself of this evil animal.
     
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    What exactly do they need to check??
     
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    In other words, they are saying the crime was so vicious that the jury was biased against her and wanted to see her get the maximum punishment, whether or not she could actually be considered "mentally competent".
     
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    do you say the same of the innocent who were railroaded into convictions and ultimately graves?
     
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    Exactly but it was based on you cannot execute a person who does not understand for what they are being executed. The SCOTUS totally rejected that she did not know why she was being executed apparently.

    It was all just a ploy to delay it until Biden was sworn in. He must be breathing easier now he does not have to face that.
     
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    Why would I say that about innocent people, she was not innocent.
     
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    that's why nobody respects your endless woof
     
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    No that is not a bias that is based on the facts, it WAS a vicious and cruel crime and she knew what she was doing and DESERVED the maximum punishment. She made an elaborate plan to commit her crime and carried it out and knew it was wrong. Evil is not a mental disease.
     
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    What do you mean, she admitted she did it, she was found with the baby in her arms.
     
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    what is it that drives you to claiming justice is all that matters and death is the only recourse no matter what?
    we all want justice, but as we see with traitor trump there's unquenchable blood lust going on, what's up with that?
     
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    What do you have against justice, this evil monster got the justice she deserved because of her own heinous acts. She deserved no other "recourse". How about recourse for the poor young mother she violently and painfully murdered for her own gain and the baby who non longer has a mother? Why do you care more about the monster than the victims?
     
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    there's always a bigger picture that gets ignored when emotion steps in the way
     
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    The picture is quite clear, what am I missing? Why the dodge?
     
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    why does it always gotta be constricted to whatever rightys want to restrict it to? just cos Rush doesn't like nuance doesn't dismiss it.
     
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    You said I am missing the big picture and I ask to expand and explain what is the bigger picture I am missing. Obviously you were blowing smoke.
     
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    there are 50K shades of grey, not all B&W
     

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