Trump Plotted With Loyalist To Oust Acting AG In Bid To Steal Georgia Election: Report

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  1. Statistikhengst

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    Trump Plotted With Loyalist To Oust Acting AG In Bid To Steal Georgia Election: Report | HuffPost

    Ahhhh, the gift that just keeps on giving.

    Do I even need to note how incredibly illegal this would have been?

    Also, note the date on which this happened: January 3rd, 2021, the day AFTER Trump's phone call to Georgia SOS Brad Raffensberger.

    The dude was really truly willing to go to any length in order to remain President, no matter how much it hurt the nation.

    The US Justice Department has no say in the certification of votes from any state within the USA or DC, it's that simple.
     
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    this fills in some blanks

    Heather Cox Richardson:
    January 22, 2021 (Friday)
    For all that the news has gotten much calmer and more straightforward since Wednesday, we did indeed get an old-fashioned (or at least a past-administration typical) news dump tonight.
    It turns out that, in the last, desperate days of his attempt to keep his grip on the presidency, Trump plotted with a lawyer in the Department of Justice, Jeffrey Clark, to oust the acting attorney general. The plan was to replace Jeffrey A. Rosen, who replaced Attorney General William Barr when he left on December 23, with Clark himself. Clark would then press Trump’s attacks on the election results.
    A story by Katie Benner in the New York Times explains that as soon as Rosen replaced Barr, Trump began to pressure Rosen to challenge the election results, appoint special counsels to investigate disproven voter fraud, and look into irregularities in the Dominion voting machines (Dominion is now suing pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for defamation). Rosen refused. He told Trump the Justice Department had found no evidence of anything that would have changed the election results.
    Trump complained about Rosen and moved to replace him with Clark, who promised to stop Congress from counting the certified Electoral College votes on January 6. This struggle came to a crisis on Sunday, January 3, 2021, when the news broke that Trump had called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to pressure him to “find” the votes Trump needed to win the state. That evening, the senior officials at the Department of Justice agreed to resign as a group if Trump put Clark in as the new acting attorney general.
    The vow that the leaders of the Department of Justice would quit if Trump tried to demote Rosen and put Clark in his place made Trump back off from his plan to pervert the Department of Justice. Three days later, rioters stormed the Capitol.
    In addition to this bombshell story, there is more news about the Capitol attack. Court documents filed on Tuesday reveal that some of the rioters had made plans ahead of time to attack the Capitol, and had planned to “arrest” lawmakers on charges of “treason” and “election fraud.”
     
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    and yet we have tons of Republicans arguing that the Dems did the same thing in 2016, 2004, etc

    It is like saying that punching someone in the arm, is that same as shooting them in the face.........
     
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    When I read it last night, I had a 'laugh out loud' moment reading about the 'Apprentice Style' meeting where Rosen and Clarke each gave their arguments.
     
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    Yeah, he did. He only decided no to go ahead with the plan because so many people around him insisted it could not possibly work. The attempt though is, all by itself, reason enough to ban Trump from every again running for or holding elected office.
     
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    Corruption needs to be punished and rooted out. I'm not sure why people are so against investigations into criminal wrongdoing. What happened to the party of law and order and draining the swamp???
     
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    Going by this the Republican Party as it stands is in full-blown revolution against the USA and advocating the overthrow of its government by force and violence. If I recall correctly this was the way the Communist Party was made illegal back in the early 1950s and I don't see why that doesn't apply here and now
     
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    Well, they may be saying that, but that does not mean that it true or even remotely close to fact.

    In 2016, no one in the Obama administration even remotely tried to get the DOJ to declare any part of the 2016 election for invalid. In fact, just 2 days after the election, Trump was sitting at a meeting with Obama at the White House.

    And in 2004, it would not even be possible for the DEMS to try to get the DOJ to do anything illegal, because the Republicans were in control of the White House both before and after the 2004 elections, so that point would be moot from the get go.
     
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    That Party has not really existed as a true party of Law and Order for quite a long time now.
     
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