Biden Transgender order on female sports. Now what?

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    LOL... wow. the turn to racism... I have generally said, women demand they be treated equally, and yet, they still demand a reservation in sport that is just for them. And now, anyone who simply just says they "identify" as a women can now compete with them as if they actually were women. The irony...
     
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    this is taking it another step, if women can play men's sports like football, can not men do the same for women's sports... equality and all

    I mean these people are still men and women, even if some do not agree with the gender they say they are

    as I have said, I think it's unfair... but it's complicated as the law is what it is... meaning people have to fear being sued if they do not handle it right
     
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    Not the case for college athletics

    NCAA Policy on Transgender Student-Athlete Participation
    The following policies clarify participation of transgender student-athletes undergoing hormonal treatment for gender transition:
    1. A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who has received a medical exception for treatment with testosterone for diagnosed Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for purposes of NCAA competition may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing that team status to a mixed team.

    2. A trans female (MTF) student-athlete being treated with testosterone suppression medication for Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria and/or Transsexualism, for the purposes of NCAA competition may continue to compete on a men’s team but may not compete on a women’s team without changing it to a mixed team status until completing one calendar year of testosterone suppression treatment.

    Any transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatment related to gender transition may participate in sex-separated sports activities in accordance with his or her assigned birth gender.
    • A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may participate on a men’s or women’s team.

    • A trans female (MTF) transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to gender transition may not compete on a women’s team.
     
  4. drluggit

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    How discriminatory. These must still be democrats running this.....
     
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    You'll have to take up your outrage with someone at NCAA. Good luck
     
  6. drluggit

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    There is likely a lot of evidence that the NCAA still think they "own" all those football players.... Slavery in our time.
     
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    You're so emotional over this that you're going off topic with your latest rant. I suggest you start a new thread if you want to talk about something else other than the thread topic.
     
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    Would that not just lead back to biological distinction being the driving force? Born a male, play on the men's team, etc.

    Just seems to me the whole argument is they get to choose.
     
  9. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure, how many would be an acceptable threshold for you?
     
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    Zero.
    So to be clear...we don't seem to know what level of issue this is, correct? We don't know if ANY women have totally lost out in getting ANY scholarship at all, correct?
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that the only concern about this? I think it's one of many so I'm not basing the entire debate over just that.
     
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    Due to the DCP and it's inability to face reality men are setting records in women's sports.
     
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    It's a big part of the concern for many. I mean...even you commented on it
    You say "all those" yet you have no idea how many, if any at all, have lost out on a scholarship. I dunno...how can such a thing be a big concern when people don't even know if any women have lost out on getting any scholarship at all due to transgender (MTF) athletes getting them.
     
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    Yes, and again, it's one issue. I commented on it, so what? You showed you can use the quote function to prove it. And I'll ask again, how many women will it take to lose out on scholarships to men before you care? If it's only a couple now, when will you start to care? When it's over 10? 30? Do you think it would make more sense to settle this now? Probably a silly question. No true progressive liberal is going to go against a transgender. Trans are the new protected pets of the dems.
     
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    Um....already stated ZERO (post #60) when you asked me
    So, since you seem to have either memory issues OR reading comprehension issues I'll try to be even clearer....NO woman should lose out on a scholarship because of a transgender. None. Zilch. Nada. Got it?

    You keep saying there are other issues but none are as important as losing out on a scholarship. Let's be honest, you're only saying that because you couldn't back up your claim of "all those women lose out on scholarships".
     
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    You keep asking the same question, so I'll give the same answer. You seem to be saying that since you don't think any women have lost a scholarship that it shouldn't be an issue yet, then out of your other face, you state that you never want that to happen. Pick a stance and stick with it.
     
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    That brings up another question. Who is more insane? The man that thinks he is a woman or the people that accept the insanity as sane.
     
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    Man you're one confused individual. I'm saying we have no idea IF it's an issue. People 'say' it is but so far no one can show it is. I hope it never will be an issue. Because, for the third time...no woman should lose out on a scholarship to a transgender.
     
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    What do you mean "if" its an issue? If natural born men can compete against women in sports such as track or wrestling, he's most probably going to win? You want to wait till then to address it. Meanwhile, you seem to be hoping to ignore it and hope no one notices so you don't have to go against a transgender.
     
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    Holy F dude. We've been talking about the issue of losing out on SCHOLARSHIPS. We don't know if it's an issue at this point. Can you at least try to read what is being posted rather than what you THINK is being posted. It will so much smoother if ya do.
     
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    Calm down and I'm not a dude.

    I can read, and I can also read that since you don't know of any lost scholarships, you don't think there is any problem. You poor thing, you want to wait till there are lost scholarships to take any action. I do understand how difficult it must be to be a progressive and have to tell transgenders no.
     
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    Nope. Wrong again.
    Pray tell...what actions are YOU taking to stop transgenders from playing on women's teams?
    Oh and I hate to break it to you...but I don't think transgender MTF should be allowed to play on women's team. BOOM! Do you ever get tired of being categorically wrong??? Hahahahaha
     
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    You seem to be getting very emotional and acting very erratic. Maybe take a breather and come back and you'll make more sense.
     
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    On top of everything else you’re unoriginal. How sad for you.
     
  25. I justsayin

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    Very good point. And now they're not wanting to face the consequence.
     

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