I have changed my mind... I think they have a good criminal case.

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  1. Oh Yeah

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    You would think oaths would mean something but when you the same people and the party line votes I would say they really don't mean anything at all. Notice how the pundits on TV signal that this Senator or that Senator will vote so and so way because of their standing for election. It's all about power and self preservation. We would be better served as a country if all elected offices were term limited. Eight years max for Representatives with a rolling 1/2 every 4 years. Senators 12 years max with 1/3 being reelected every 4 years. President Eight years max with reelection every 4 years. Supreme Court judges (1) 12 year term. Pensions should be based on a percentage and time served but not more than 1/4 of present salary.
     
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    Congrats on joining the living.
     
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    Of course not. Clinton's impeachment is a good example. It was not about justice or what was best for the country. 2 sides of the same ugly coin.
     
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    That should have been explained in the left wing media but they've always wanted to avoid that. Unsolicitated ballots, depending on the state, are not signature verified. They flood and confuse the system. That is why we have late arriving votes (as needed). In 2020 voting took a lot of drastic changes. Precisely why there were a lot more votes. We need all votes to be signature verified preferably with voter ID.
     
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    Cancel culture within ones own party is called "refining". If you don't go along with the concensus....find another party. That is why today there is no such thing as a "Blue Dog Democrat". Cancel Culture happens in the General Culture and it is only the left that does it!
     
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    Matter of fact ,yes. He had armed thugs willing to shoot those who didn't take the kool aid.
     
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    No problem. Seeing that the all the great religions are the cause of all most of the discourse in history and most nations are the result of religion why shouldn't they be taught in schools.
     
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    However you need to spin it to make you justify your defense on him, go for it.

    But he clearly is telling his supporters what he wants Pence to do. And Pence can't do it. So it's a lie. It was to get them agitated to rile up the mob.
     
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    Why would that even matter?
    I don't care what Europe does. Except for the 6 weeks of National holidays they get.

    But for voting. I don't know and I don't care. What they do for voting has no effect on me. Or the USA.
     
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    Any one who can watch what the left has encouraged and protected in terms of the most violent and outrageous behavior ever seen in riots, watched them hold back police and claim these were peaceful protests and fail to label them as thugs and liars lacks the capacity to judge anything accurately.

    The "house managers" pursue this for ONE primary reason- and that is to prevent Trump from running in 2024. They fear his winning- because it means their loss, and they would sell every American iinto poverty and slavery to win. You don't have to be be republican or democrat to see that- you just have to be honest with yourself, and have some kind of fundamental respect for your fellow man.
     
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    Nothing wrong with religions being taught in schools.
    As an elective. It should not be forced on anyone to take.

    And there are more religions than just some god. You were complaining about some god not being in schools anymore Were you not?
    There is a satanic religion.

    As for public displays, that could lead to a lot of public clutter if every religion were to put some public display out.
    It is easier for communities to just say no to public displays of religious stuff.
     
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    It doesn't seem to be a problem for the nine states that already send unsolicited ballots to registered voters. Why is this different?
     
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    Did The House Managers Deliberately Throw The Case?

    Now the opening post contains a personal testimony of one who, in spite of himself, finds himself convinced by the "amazing" presentation. Others quickly point to the fundamental weakness in the Democrats’ case against Donald The Magnificent: To be guilty of incitement, Trump had to clearly and without a doubt instruct his supporters to go to the Capitol and riot.
    Our level of commitment to Free Speech is without question. Only, under the narrowest of circumstances will we EVER criminalize speech, by ANYONE!
    Now we get a glimpse of the circumstances under which the Authoritarian Left would criminalize, ban, and forbid speech - they would ban anything they disagree with.

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    Trump Code-Signaling The Violent Take Down Of The American Government.​

    Fatal Flaw In Execution: You have to be deranged Democrat to follow his signals.

    This spectacle of elite ignorance calls to mind something sinister about the Trump impeachment trial, it signifies that Democrats, by putting a former president on trial for something he did not do, are trying to destroy not only Trump but the entire Republican Party, and tar everyone who voted for Trump as a traitor.
    Impeachment Managers Allege Guilt By Association
     
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    To make this case, Eric Swallowswell [Banger of Fang] and the other Democrat impeachment managers have had to rely on emotional appeals rather than facts. They gave lengthy and dramatic presentations about the mass protest and subsequent riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, showing previously unseen security footage of rioters breaching the Capitol building.
    Mitt Romney (Pierre Delecto) claimed that, even he, was deeply moved.

    Romney was playing the part Democrats have assigned him, depicting Trump as the true leader of the mob, commanding and directing them from his perch in the White House.

    But, Rep Eric Swallowswell [Banger of Fang] and the other impeachment managers completely failed to present any information that would suggest Trump planned, supported, or even knew about the attack that a small group of his supporters pre-planned for Jan. 6.

    Rep. Diana DeGette tried to make a case that the handful of rioters who attacked the Capitol (out of a much larger protest numbering in the tens of thousands at least) were doing so because they thought they were following Trump’s orders, but, House Democrats never called on any of these people to testify in the House impeachment hearing, so DeGette was reduced to quoting a few statements rioters posted on social media or made to the press.

    Wholly lacking any relevant evidence to support their grandiose charges, Democrats finally fell back on the sinister heart of their case against Trump: all Trump supporters, not just the rioters, are traitors simply for supporting him.
    And that was the point of this Democrat farce.
    Some on the left are actually dumb enough to come out and say it, like MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, who on Thursday morning said Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley is “responsible for the insurrection,” along with Cruz and Sens. Rick Scott and Marco Rubio.[/quote]What do all these Republicans have in common? They all think there were problems with the 2020 election. If that’s the bar for being guilty of insurrection, then Trump’s guilt is shared not just by Hawley and Cruz and the others, it’s shared by millions of Americans across the country.

    Understand what’s happening here.[/quote] There’s no chance Trump will be convicted by the Senate, but this impeachment theater is not as pointless as it seems. The Democrats are clearly declaring that if you support Donald The Magnificent, you’re a traitor.
     
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    I see, so like everything else in the warped world of the right, they do no wrong and everything is someone else's fault. The right is ALWAYS the victim.
     
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    Actually it's a crime to disagree with the Authoritarian Left Democrats on any point, and sedition if you dare breathe a word of your forbidden conclusions to another. The Authoritarian Left Democrats agree with the turn-coat's vote, so this action by his home state constituents is actually High Treason!

    Ann Althouse:
    They can’t point to that because he didn’t. That’s why they’re blowing smoke and peddling doctored videos for emotional impact.

    But hey! They turned around, even, Mitt Romney and the Opening Poster. That's some mighty fine lawyering! Hoo Doggies!

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    If you feel that way then I say cancel Christmas as a National Holiday and that week as a time for vacations. Easter also should be canceled as a time for vacations during the school year. Should we not also cancel St. Valentines and St. Patrick's Day. Does not Mothers Day offend some like Maxine Waters who might prefer Mother F--kers Day. Does not Fathers day offend about 1/4 of all children who don't really know who their father is. Columbus and his men brought smallpox to the Indians, and President Washington and Lincoln were sympathize of slavery so let us remove them also. So that leaves Independence Day which is apathy to liberals who are so desperate to control all aspects of our lives. Labor Day which we could change to $15 an hour day. Last but not least is Thanksgiving in which half of America is not grateful for.
     
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    First off, I am glad to see your post. I had not seen or heard from you during the riots in Sept in Portland that I sent you a private note to see if you were alright. When it comes to being unapologetically rude, the left takes first place every time. The horrors that Trump has unleashed? Still waiting for someone to post that list.
     
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    The Federalist papers are heavy reading so if you can't comprehend you have plenty of company.
     
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    We don't govern our nation with the federalist papers and frankly they are fairly easy reading, I'm sorry you have trouble with them.
    While somewhat interesting they have little to no bearing.
     
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    No one is forced to celebrate Christmas or any holiday.
    If one doesn't want to celebrate, simply don't.

    I really don't understand your rant.
     
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    Glenn Kirshner, who was a prosecutor in Washington DC for thirty years, blows the Brandenburg defense away:




    That was just the segment on Brandenburg, the entire video is here;

     
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    No I talk to others, what about you?
     
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    No this is what we call reality.
     

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