In a Philadelphia elementary school, teachers are putting a premium on radicalism, not reading.

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  1. chris155au

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    Portable enclosure?
     
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    Why don't you go live in Belarus or one of the other Fascist paradises? Are you that blase about living here that you can go anywhere and have it be just the same? Fine, leave, that is your right, I am an American and will remain so

    I like living in this country, and I want to keep on liking it. One of the major benefits of living here is that I am allowed, even encouraged to make it better, both for me and everyone else as long as I remain within the law This is my HOME, these veiled threats to deport me because I dare exercise my basic right to disagree with you and anyone else are not appreciated
     
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    Lesson plans are not a personal possession in the sense that they are available to parents or staff. The school can and does look over lesson plans and teachers are required to present them for scrutiny when asked. They could be obtained by simply asking the administration for clarification. The responsible thing to do when going public online with claims like Rufo makes is to present the evidence. It's not that difficult.

    Most of what was presented was a couple of photos that we can't verify and don't tell us what was happening, and a typed question asking for a definition of communism. The suggestion that this lesson somehow glorified Davis is completely unprovable by anything presented. Could it have been a lesson that glorified Davis? Yes. Was it? We have no idea because nothing presented indicates that. Is Rufo pushing a narrative about education? Based on what he's written so far, he certainly does seem to be.
     
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    Then why did you say that it appears to be about Davis?
     
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    The difference between appears and is...

    Let's assume it was about Davis. I don't have a problem believing that. Teaching about historical figures is what teachers do. Assuming the unit was about Davis--what were the goals and objectives? How were the students expected to demonstrate learning outcomes? Any unit or lesson plan will have these clearly identified.
     
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    Your reading is working.
     
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    Maybe so, but for many it was an incentive to learn more if the teacher conducting the course was any good at teaching it.
     
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    Well that explains why one of my last girlfriends from Philly was so dumb she took her temperature every time someone told her she looked hot.
     
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    Definitely conditioning them to jump to the lefts dog whistle. It's subversion 101. I'm fluxomed as to how they get away with turning a public school into a radical training center. It must mean that all the Parents and people in charge are the same way.
     
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    What's the relevance of "portable enclosure?"
     
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    And the kids with the signs are more likely staged than genuine?
     
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    Actually, there's another story, this time with lesson plans sourced! Perhaps this one is more convincing for you? https://christopherrufo.com/failure-factory/
     
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    Was she also a blonde?
     
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    pod.
     
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    I've read his other articles and see the same problem--a political narrative that uses "dots" to suggest something sinister. What is linked there is essentially a hodge-podge of documents from a bunch of sources.

    Parts of a lesson plans, parts of state curriculum standards, workshop handouts, and so forth. What I see in the curriculum standards and bits of lesson plans is the standard old curriculum with parts that focus on historical events involving Black protests. What part of that should not be taught?

    Rufo throws out documents with little or no explanation to show how they fit into anything. We see an alleged "whistleblower" complaining about having to endure those workshops. (Trust me on this--not too many staff will sit through any workshops and not come out complaining.) Rufo is not organizing or labelling things to show that, for instance, the lesson plans jump from high school to elementary school and back again.

    He is not directly connecting the things he seems to be complaining about to specific instruction in the classroom. He claims what he provided is evidence that we're wasting time teaching kids about stuff that's not important and that we should be focusing on the essentials. What he doesn't seem to realize is that much of what he presents as evidence is part of the old curriculum he thinks isn't being taught.

    In the end, this is just more doubt that Rufo knows anything about what's happening in education.
     
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    Can either one of us do anything more than guess at that? They might be real--I'm not claiming they aren't, but what do the photos show other than the lesson was about Davis and the historical events of the period?
     
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    Redhead.
     
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    What do the photos show other than the lesson was about Davis and the historical events of the period? They show kids with the signs.
     
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    What part of it should not be taught? Perhaps the part where students watch a video that dramatizes dead black children speaking to them from beyond the grave about the dangers of being killed by “racist police and state-sanctioned violence.” Perhaps the part where students are taught that America has created a “school-to-grave pipeline” for black children and that, as adults, “one million Black people are locked in cages."
     
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    So you were making a joke about what 'POD' stands for?
     
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    We have here a school with children that obviously are not going to achieve much in a highly competitive world, so instead of imprisoning them into a radical political system like communism, what if they were taught a trade? A nice craft that they would enjoy doing? I'm sure they have talents and abilities, everyone does.

    Oh that's right I forgot, small tradesmen and business' are a no-no in our corporate owned and controlled world.
     
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    Were the poorer whites educated? Probably not except for the wealthier slave owning class.
     
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    And any purpose or meaning beyond that is a product of our minds because we weren't there and we have no other evidence. This is my complaint about Rufo and this kind of campaign he's pushing.

    Did I miss the link for that video?
     
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    But aren't the major and so called 'accepted' news sites, the ones who are feeding the public fake news? What can be more fake than what the NYTimes, Washington Post, CNN, NBC, and BBC tells us?

    What you really want is to indoctrinate others so they will accept your view of things, and that's a form of control. I personally consider anything that limits ones freedom of thought anti Christian and evil.


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    Are you calling the "whistleblower sources" "standard old curriculum?"
     

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