Rasmussen Poll: Half of US Sees Biden as Unfit to Be President

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  1. Pollycy

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    Your unvarnished HONESTY in this issue, so RARELY encountered in these types of discussions, is to be commended!

    The charitable religious principle that has existed for hundreds of years says that each of us is "his neighbor's keeper" -- and that therefore each of us must pay to "keep" those who don't pay their own way in life. I understand that viewpoint.

    BUT, and our atheist friends are especially good at reminding us of this -- the United States is not founded on the precepts of ANY religion; moreover, the establishment of a 'state religion' is expressly forbidden in the Constitution!

    Taking care of those unfortunate fellow American citizens who, because of dreadful diseases, birth defects, terrible accidents, etc., cannot (CANNOT) support themselves, is something that I would support voluntarily on purely humanitarian grounds, but not constitutional ones....
     
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    LOL
     
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    ...because you said so. Hahaha.
     
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    The Founding Fathers were revolutionaries who thought the Constitution would have been rewritten many times before now.

    Rather than carrying on about "wrap-around handout welfare system" (whatever that means), I suggest coming up with how things should work when in a couple of decades a lot of employees will be replaced by the application of artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and high-speed wireless communications.

    What are we going to do with the tens of millions of people without work?
    In the context of figuring out what to do in the future, everything you mentioned will be subject to change.
    What do you hope to accomplish? Where are people supposed to get their income in a future where many workers will lose their jobs?
     
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    Because they are.
     
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    Correct. I wrote those two comments.
     
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    Damn it... even though it revolts me to do so, I am compelled to agree with much you said... thus, I "liked" your reply. Mankind must find new ways to work in the future, and new systems must be devised for compensation, too.

    Still, it is true that such 'mechanisms' don't exist in the Constitution... so, if government is going to be involved (almost a certainty), it should be done through the well-used method of amending the Constitution.
     
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    He is unfit.

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    WELL…. WE ALREADY KNOW THEY ARE: Alarming Parseltongue, White House Press Secretary Cannot Answer if Illegal Aliens are Released With COVID Infection.

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    AND YET WE’RE TOLD HE WON IN A LANDSLIDE: POLL: Americans ‘Worried’ About Biden’s ‘Ability To Do The Job.’

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    The polling was conducted March 4 and 7 concerning Biden’s lack of transparency.
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    True. We should start looking at it now, as a country, not just as political parties.
    In fact, it's not well-used and SCOTUS has dealt with our political dysfunction by turning the Constitution into a "living document." Can you imagine trying to amend the Constitution today with people fighting over gun rights and abortion, just to name two items on wish lists? The truth is Americans support people having guns and abortion. True Believers trying to ban one or the other would no doubt feel compelled to keep at it.
     
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    First I hear.

    I call bullshit. Even 49% of republicans favor stricter gun laws.
     
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    Not surprising since a lot of people don't know anything about guns or current gun laws. Dems have been spreading nonsense about guns and gun laws for decades.
    People support making it mandatory to get a background check before buying at gun at a gun show. Except that's already a law.
    People think that semi-automatic guns are fully automatic guns.
    People think that an AR-15 is a military weapon.
    People can't even define what makes a rifle an assault weapon, but they want to ban assault rifles.
    People don't know that barely anyone is killed with AR-15s but they sure do look scary and that's the important thing.
    People want to ban people with mental health issues from owning a gun, but they also don't know how to enforce that law without breaking Hippaa laws.

    Like the MIB say, "a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky dangerous animals.
     
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    Uhh... she couldn't draw 1% of her own party's vote. I don't care about her color. I'd be just as disbelieving against Whitmer.
     
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    I asked what Canada was doing that seems to have worked so well. You posted a link that said that they were simply doing what we've been doing. Nowhere did I advocate opening up huge events. I didn't say anything about hoaxes nor did I whine about rights. Again, this is your partisanship getting in the way of a good conversation. With that said, I also don't advocate shutting down lakes and state parks where I could go get away from everyone but that's what my awesome Governor did. Who would have guessed that being alone out on a lake could spread corona virus so bad.

    Meaning that "the science" (including Canada) says that it is safe to open schools. Teachers seem to not want to follow the science. They refuse to be as brave as the front line soldiers bagging groceries or stocking toilet paper at Costco.
     
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    Thank you for CONFIRMING that you do NOT understand how the Constitution works FOR We the People's WELFARE.
     
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    Than you for CONFIRMING that you are CONTRADICTING your own Single Payer Scenario!

    Do you NOT understand that allowing people to just OPT OUT and then OUT IN whenever it suits them makes a MOCKERY of the CONCEPT of having a " gigantic customer-base"?

    Obviously you have NOT taken the trouble to understand the FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES necessary in order to ACHIEVE a "gigantic customer-base".

    It does NOT work when you allow people to DO EXACTLY what YOU are ALLOWING in your own words above.
     
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    That is an ABSURD falsehood and NOWHERE did I make any such statement. The WELFARE of We the People is based upon them PAYING TAXES for those WELFARE programs EXACTLY like you and I do for SS and Medicare.

    Please STOP posting asinine falsehoods!

    You have that completely and utterly WRONG again!

    Go and do your research into the CHALLENGES to Social Security and Medicare and then QUOTE the DECISIONS that "support" your fallacious allegations above.

    You WON'T because they do NOT support them.
     
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    There is NOT a dime's worth of difference between the FISCAL policies of the ESTABLISHMENT Dems and your ESTABLISHMENT Q-GOP, Cy!

    They have been BRIBED into SUBMISSION by the GREED obsessed Wall Street Casino Banksters.

    The SOCIAL policies DIFFER in that the ESTABLISHMENT Q-GOP panders to their extremist WHITE theist base whereas the ESTABLISHMENT Dems pander shamelessly to anyone and everyone, INCLUDING disaffected Republicans, in order to get their votes.

    The rightwing EXTREMISTS of the Q-GOP embrace the FALLACIES of Libertarianism that is a FISCAL DISASTER.

    The PROGRESSIVES in the Dem Party embrace the OUTRAGEOUS CONCEPT that ALL HARDWORKING Americans DESERVE to be paid LIVING WAGES and BENEFITS.

    Progressives UNDERSTAND that when CORPORATIONS are allowed to EXPLOIT hardworking Americans by UNDERPAYING them then it is WE the TAXPAYERS that are providing WELFARE to the CORPORATIONS in the form of a taxpayer SUBSIDIZED workforce.

    YOUR TAXES would be LOWER under Progressives because there would be LESS WELFARE required AFTER Corporations were REQUIRED to pay hardworking Americans LIVING WAGES and BENEFITS.

    Capitalism MUST be self sustaining which means that the price of GOODS must COVER the EXPENSE of both materials and LABOR. When your Q-GOP enables Corporations to UNDERPAY hardworking Americans they place a BURDEN on TAXPAYERS like you and I to SUBSIDIZE those hardworking Americans.

    In other words YOU and I are providing indirect WELFARE to CORPORATIONS under the system that YOU support.

    Yes, Corporations WILL raise the price of their goods and services but ALL of the hardworking Americans who are then being PAID living wages and benefits will be able to AFFORD to buy those goods where the PRICE includes both the cost of materials and labor.

    Progressives want to make this HAPPEN and it BEGINS with REQUIRING Corporations PAY wages AT or ABOVE the Poverty Level.

    This is NOT rocket science, Cy. When you remove the EMOTIONAL component and JUST look at the FISCAL picture it makes absolute SENSE.

    When Corporations EXPLOIT workers by UNDERPAYING them then TAXPAYERS have to provide WELFARE to make up the DIFFERENCE that our fellow Americans NEED in order to pay their bills.

    STOP the Corporate EXPLOITATION and the CURRENT taxpayer BURDEN disappears because the BALANCE of Capitalism is RESTORED to where it NEEDS to be.

    That is the basic concept behind FISCAL PROGRESSIVISM, Cy.
     
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    Newsflash for you, Cy!

    Getting OLD is MANDATORY!

    WITHOUT Social Security under your Q-GOP then POVERTY would be MANDATORY for OLD people.

    Which would YOU rather was MANDATORY?

    Spending your retirement in MANDATORY POVERTY...OR...receiving a MANDATORY SS check each month?

    Sad that YOU believe that you have been SHACKLED out of your god given right to spend your old age in abject POVERTY.
     
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    The Founding Fathers REMOVED religion and REPLACED it with the WELFARE of We the People, Cy.

    Your beef is with the Founding Fathers, not atheists.
     
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    Thanks.

    It is intrinsic to all government that they"push" towards totalitarianism. Some are less obvious than other and some move at a slower pace.
     
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    I think that 53% of people will approve of Biden despite that.

    They will approve because he is "in their tribe".

    They will approve because he has Harris as his VP.

    They will approve because he's not Trump.

    They will approve because of propoganda.

    They will approve because of political ignorance.

    I really think that a lot of people really don't care that much about Joe's obvious mental short comings. You can but a poo-slinging monkey in office and why not? The Republicans did it with Trump.
     
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    This from Gallup...

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    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

    Americans don't want to take away folks' guns.
     
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