Right wing wants to limit voting but not gun ownership.

I'd have to disagree with this statement. It is a citizens duty to vote in order to provide the leadership in this country. The idea of 'infringing' on that leaves a very, very bad taste in my mouth, besides opening a door to the idea that all our Rights could be 'infringed'.

 

In a real democracy there is no greater right than to vote to elect ones own government and leadership.

 

Does the Constitution state that? No because there are no federal elections and the only right you have to vote is where the government allows you and it is very limited. As I have noted the Constitution does not even mandate you vote for the President. So those trying to compare voting to firearms don't have much solid ground here.

 

Well IF we were a democracy at the federal level. You do know you don't have a right to vote for the only two "national offices"? The only rights you have as far as voting is equal protection when the government allows you to vote on something.

 

Why don't you elect your 2 senators and a number of congressmen based n states population??? All national office holders.

 

It never ceases to amaze me that the right place far greater value on their right to own guns than on their right to elect their government representatives and leadership.

 

Right now there are more than 150 GOP sponsored proposals in 33 state legislatures under consideration al of which are attempts to limit voting rights by citizens.

 

Georgia governor signs highly voter restrictive bill into law very shortly after it passed in the majority Georgia legislature. A bill clearly designed to try to reverse the record huge black vote which turned out for the recently completed Georgia senate reelection vote in December.

 

43 states have GOP filed legislative bills filed to either restrict or in some way make it more difficult for citizens to vote in our elections. Even with the recent shooting massacres little to no states acting to in any way restrict or control firearms ownership.

 

A smart man would realize that the damage done to the nation by corrupt voting is far more dangerous than guns.
All the GOP has asked for is that the "one man, one vote" principle and proper proof of identity apply. This doesn't harm or limit anyone's legal right to vote. It doesn't create tracking or invade privacy- but it does insure the votes come from the area they represent and they do honor the principle. Now HOW could any honest person see anything wrong with that? A dishonest one, could- but not an honest one.

To buy a gun, you make a sworn statement and submit to a federal background check, and the model and serial number of the gun you buy becomes a federal record.

Are you so foolish as to compare that to voting ID, which is not recorded, just presented and verified at voting? Not really. You may say so, but in fact you damn well know better.

 

Thsat's assuming loss of human lives means nothing to you???

 

DO you have some numbers on that?

 

When should we expect your treatise on prohibition 2.0?

 

Except for the fact that there is no problem.

 

At least, none that the people who are the problem and are responsible for the problem are willing to admit to.
They could watch the "Jackass" show on TV and take it as a life-guide.

 

Isn't it funny?

The right claims that stricter gun laws will not prevent gun crime.

So, why is it that all of a sudden stricter voting laws will prevent voting crime?

Doesn't make sense to me.

 

Voter fraud simply is not an issue. This has been studied to death by both democrats and republicans and the rate of voter fraud is statistically zero. It's just not an issue.

 

It's only a non-issue to the people who didn't care how it was done so long as Trump lost. Denial and blocking is not investigation. The quantity of irregularities and chaos surrounding the election and the sudden shifts in numbers that had no basis in historical precedent all have the intense smell of rank corruption. The fact you don't know how a trick was done does not mean it wasn't a trick. When you watch a magician make a woman disappear from one place and appear in another, do you assume it was truly magic? Of course you do. Given the demonstrated moral standard if today's left, the logical person knows there is no limit to what they are willing to do. These people would cheat when it wasn't necessary out of habit.

 

Reality shows otherwise. Every single investigation done has shown you there was no fraud. It’s just not an issue. Stomping your feet doesn’t change that.

 

Neither does deciding that since you can't figure out how it was done yet that it didn't happen- and that is your position.
Mine is that there is no way it didn't happen. I never believed the magician actually sawed the girl in half, then put her back together either. I know he pulled a trick, not performed magic.
Crap like that goes on all the time in politics, fraud and deception are hardly anything new- but the left has been working to master it for years. Any day now they will be funding a unicorn ranch on the moon or something equivalent, and telling you that with a straight face- and you will just think that's so cool.

 

no. my position is that the evidence shows it doesn't happen.

and your position has been refuted.

stomping your feet doesn't change reality. Voter fraud simply is not an issue, as every single investigation has shown.

 

But that is the tactic favored above all else by the left. Why would you object when others do it?
No one on that side paid any attention when we pointed out they were throwing trash and calling it evidence.
When you look at a crumpled car but you didn't see the wreck- you may not know how it happened, but you damn sure know it's not natural.
That is most people would, obviously there are some that would think it was the way the factory built it, or natural dehydration of the steel or something.
They would know better too, but they would say it anyway. Flying pigs exist in their world too.

 

If there was election FRAUD then why are so many GOP legislatures now trying so desperately to reduce the number of people who vote in our elections by making it difficult for them to do so??? Including resorting to deny voters waiting in line to vote in the heat access to water???

 

huh? What tactic? I correctly pointed out that there is no voter fraud issue, as every single investigation has shown.

this is incoherent rambling. The facts remain. Voter fraud is not an issue in the US. Every investigation to date has shown you this.

 

You fail to understand the difference between not having found proof of something and it not actually happening.
We haven't found proof Jimmy Hoffa is dead either. There are a great many things like this- in fact, almost everything in science is to a large extent theory, because there are facts we don't know about nearly everything. You cannot disprove a negative. You can say "we haven't found proof", but that never means that proof doesn't exist. It often means that a lot of people chose not to see the obvious- or don't want it to be revealed. Most every crime fits that description.