Biden Joint Address to Congress.

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  1. fmw

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    You have been drinking. The first VP of the U.S. was John Adams who became the second president. Not sure what this has to do with last night's speech.
     
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    Predident Biden said, "Farmers planting cover crops so they can reduce the carbon dioxide in the air and get paid for doing it."
    Evidently, He doesn't know that plants produce carbon dioxide at night, and that without carbon dioxide, there is less food for people and animals.

    He also said, "...in my view, we also need to make a once-in-a-generation investment in our families and our children." Very nice, but USA is murdering millions of children every year, and neutering many folks with our worship of Sodom and Gomorrah.
     
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    I never watch political speeches or infomercials...just someone trying to sell me something of dubious value at a vastly inflated price.
     
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    President Biden:
    "We have to remain vigilant against the threats to the United States wherever they come from. Al-Qaida and ISIS are in Yemen, Syria, Somalia, other places in Africa, in the Middle East and beyond.

    There You have it from the President's words, that he thinks the problem is other countries, when it is USA that is sponsoring terrorism.

    "And we won't ignore what our intelligence agency has determined to be the most lethal terrorist threat to the homeland today: white supremacy's terrorism." Making the world safe for the pale face Richman and the "homeland" of the anti-Christs by mongrelizing the peasants?
     
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    I wish POTUS would go back to simply delivering their SOTU via writing. These events are just theatrics where the party of the President will stand and applaud every sentence spoken while the other side sits on their hands (occasionally standing up). They take credit where it’s not deserved and blame their predecessor for how difficult it is to deliver on their promises.

    I watched neither Biden, nor Scott. I do however read what is said about what the other said.
     
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    I thought it was a nice speech, a little long to me, but overall sounded good. I think the reason they do this is being overlooked though. They do this to convince the American people so that they in turn put pressure on congress to get something done. Ok by me, and I agreed with most of the reasoning and a lot of the solutions.
    Let's see if congress is up to the task, as that is where the "rubber meets the road".
     
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    It is definitely all theatrics but I don't blame them. People want to see it played out (just as some are intrigued with the "Jerry Springer Show"). Many posters have been complaining non-stop that Biden hasn't spoken publicly and it must be because he's cognitively challenged in some way. It's pretty clear that he does not have dementia but that sticking point has caused all kinds of hatred and speculation.

    I wish we could go back to a time where people respected other people's rights to have different opinions. Unless one is in the 1% elite group, we are all fighting the same battle.
     
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    Go back in time? Are you some kind of nutjob? How dare you disrespect "Jerry"!
    None of your opinions count, only the ones I agree with!



    You know I'm joking, right?
     
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    I thought Obama was one of the best orators I’ve seen. Didn’t care for his policies but there’s no question that he knew how to sell himself. Trump is a poor speaker but someone convinced him of the benefit of using a teleprompter even though he had a tendency to go off script. Biden is lost if he doesn’t have a teleprompter or notes to read from. Is he suffering from dementia? Idk for sure but he definitely has signs of senility. I’m a strong advocate for an upper age limit for anyone seeking the office of POTUS. Dementia can come on fast and be covered up by handlers. Just consider the case of Reagan. Did he have it while in office? I’m not sure if that’s ever been addressed but it presents a problem. The 25th being the solution but difficult to implement.
     
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    I have no intention of insulting you (and wouldn't, anyway; I try to be relatively civil).

    I was recently looking at a scientific paper in the scientific journal Intelligence (a leading Psychometrics journal) that seems to support what you are saying, with a comparison between people with an IQ of 75 or less with those with an IQ of 125 or more. The lower IQ people had more children, more of them were out of wedlock, they had a several folds increase in likelihood of poverty, incarceration, and dependence on the welfare state, versus the intelligent people. They had data for 75 to 85, 85 to 95, 95 to 105, 105 to 115, and 115 to 125 as well, and predictably, the smarter, the better, in terms of these social indicators.

    I would say, though, that while this seems to be factual, it is not the only factor. There is such thing as an intelligent but poor person.

    For example, someone may be smart, have a good job, function well in that job, but then a crisis like the Covid-19 hits and the person is downsized and struggles to find another job, sliding into poverty.

    While IQ influences the potential for earnings, it's not the only factor.
     
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    True, and I can perfectly hear you and respect your opinion. You and I do see differently politically but you always debate the issues politely so I have nothing against talking to you about the topic.

    As you may know I'm a centrist and an independent. I do generally like Biden (whom I see as a centrist/moderate for the most part although he's been trying to please the left wing of his party too; well, he must, because the GOP "Party of No" will not vote for any of his initiatives so given the slim margin of 50 votes + the VP's tiebreaking vote, he can't afford to lose any of his 50 people; if he had a bigger majority I believe he'd be more moderate) but I do not like the extreme left either.

    I think the woke stuff is a joke. I dislike the Bernie Sanders and AOCs of this life and I've posted numerous times here on PF criticizing them. But yes, I abhor Donald Trump and the sycophants who enabled him in Congress. I used to vote GOP for several offices, including in this very last election when I voted for the GOP senatorial candidate in my state. However after January 6th, the GOP has managed to alienate me. I find all the talk that Biden stole the election and all the legislation to restrict the access of legitimate American citizens to the ballot box, disgraceful and anti-democratic. We survived a quasi-coup d'etat, something I had never thought possible in America, with Trump aided by many GOP senators and representatives. Terrible.

    And the mismanagement of the pandemic, I won't easily forgive and forget. I lost close friends and colleagues to Covid-19.

    At least for one or two election cycles it will be difficult for me to vote GOP again. However, I would open an exception for those in the GOP who did have the guts to oppose Trump's electoral lies and incitement rhetoric. This includes Senator Ben Sasse (Nebraska) and Governor Larry Hogan (Maryland) who both apparently do have presidential ambitions, among a few others. I would have no problem voting for them. But a Ted Cruz, for example, that abject sycophant, if he's the nominee you can be assured that I'll vote for the Dem presidential candidate again, even if it is Kamala Harris of whom I'm not particularly fond.
     
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    Oh great (insert sarcasm here), that's all we needed: another new poster who is anti-America, and thinks of us as the imperialist evil.

    What I'd say to you: enjoy, while it lasts, the United States' supremacy. Once the cruel, selfish, and ruthless Chinese finish taking over the world, you will remember with nostalgia the good old times when the United States was on top.
     
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    Biden is not demented. Period. He suffers from mild, age-appropriate cognitive decline that does not prevent him from functioning in any major way. Anybody who thinks that Biden is demented simply hasn't been around truly demented people.
     
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    Nice to have that question settled. :)
     
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    I supplemented the answer, above. Read again.

    And yes, what I'm saying is from being a physician for more than 40 years, who has treated demented people. I do know what I'm talking about. But you don't need to believe me (when I say that Biden is not demented, OR when I say that I am a physician), you're free to have your own opinion of both assertions given that in an anonymous website I can't prove my credentials. Take it or leave it.
     
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    I would never call you a liar. I do have personal experience with people suffering from dementia. But I certainly am not qualified to diagnose it. Nevertheless, unless you actually personally treated him are you quite certain that he isn’t suffering from it? If I recall he refused to be tested for mental acuity.
     
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    There is no doubt that Obama was an exceptional speaker. As you've stated, one can not necessarily agree with his politics but there is no denying he is a polished speaker.

    Trump is a showman. He loves the camera and the lights and the attention. He doesn't care what, when, where or who it's about. He LOVES to talk and he gets his energy from his crowds. He was a reality tv star that loved the idea of holding the highest position in the world. He knows how "to work the room".

    I'm not a medical professional but I've worked in a nursing home for a short period and interacted with dementia patients. My ex's uncle had dementia. His wife was an RN and eventually couldn't care for him. I see absolutely NO similarities between all the people I've seen with it and Joe Biden. None. They simply can't cut it on and off. Sometimes one can catch a glimpse of his life-long problem with stuttering but that presents differently than dementia.

    Reagan was before my time so I've only heard about him in a historical way.

    From the sound of things, people dislike Harris and Pelosi enough to endure Biden for the long haul.
     
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    Sodom and Gomorrah??? Please...
    Sigh...
     
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    You do have a point that without a formal review of his clinical and neurological status and a full battery of neuropsych testing it is difficult to say with an advanced degree of certainty, one way or the other. However I base my observation on listening to Biden in situations when he addresses the nation or the press, some with, some without teleprompter. Particularly, during the campaign, there was a Town Hall event; he was supposed to have it with Trump but Trump chickened out so he did it on his own, remember? Well, he spent almost two hours talking with several undecided voters who bombarded him with dozens of improvised questions regarding difficult, complex topics. Biden responded fast and sharply in an articulate manner. He talked about those topics with ease. That performance was entirely incompatible with someone with a significant degree of dementia. Someone here said "Biden has senior moments similar to my mom's and she's been diagnosed with dementia" and I replied "put your mother there in that Town Hall and have her answering dozens of rapid-firing questions about energy, immigration, foreign relations, healthcare etc etc and if she is truly demented, I certainly doubt that she will be able to deliver the articulate and thorough answers Biden is delivering. If she does, then, sorry, but she's been misdiagnosed and she is not demented."

    Then I saw his first interview as president elect, with Kamala Harris. Again, he was asked a large number of questions, no teleprompt. He did very well for the most part. On occasion he had some little senior moments, which are common in someone his age and are NOT unequivocal signs of dementia. At one point he was talking about someone he would interview for one of his cabinet positions or something (I don't recall exactly) and he turned to Kamala and said, "Kamala, when is, again, that we're seeing this person?" She said "Tuesday." He said, "right, Tuesday" and continued to answer the question. So, yes, Biden forgot that the interview was scheduled for Tuesday. This kind of minor slip is common in someone his age, and usually with an entourage of people who help out in those moments, the senior citizen continues to function quite appropriately.

    I remember a 95-year-old patient I had; very sharp, very intelligent (actually someone very prominent, a former VIP, well-known to the public - sadly he passed away of natural causes, in his advanced age; very charming and interesting individual); his wife (younger than him) came with him to the visits, and sometimes my patient who was talking about someone, would turn to her and say, "honey, what's that guy's name, again?" and she'd say "Peter" and he'd continue, "yes, Peter; like I was saying, Peter told me..." etc etc.

    Yes, cognitive decline, some memory lapses... but far from full-blown dementia.

    Based exclusively on what I see when Biden addresses the nation, the voters, or the press, I'd say that Biden is likely to have enough in the gas tank to last for the next 3 years and 9 months, without the 25th being invoked.

    Is it possible that I'm wrong? Sure, anything is possible. But I just don't think so.
     
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    Wait a sec.

    Are you just as concerned for the millions of non-aborted kids that will go to bed hungry and/or beaten, raped and otherwise abused?

    Who is worshipping Sodom and Gomorrah?
     
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    I can. Did anybody even actually watch this monstrosity?

    Nah, I had much better things to do than to watch a stumbling bumbling fool switch between lying and incoherent rambling for an hour or whatever...
     
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    Is that why he keeps fear mongering about covid?
     
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    Yes, good job President Trump for getting all of those covid vaccines. Biden didn't do a damn thing in that regard, dude...

    I don't wish to be vaccinated. Leave me alone. Shove your Satanic medical tyranny up your ****ing ass.
     
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    Have you ever driven on damn near any road across the States of America, the SOTC, the SOTNY, or the SODC?
     
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    Great! What is his plan for infrastructure?
     

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