Body camera videos show 13-year-old Adam Toledo put hands up before fatal police shooting in Chicago

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't. Give them enough money for a modest burial (something that's still pretty expensive these days) and that's it. Maybe some money for a few counseling sessions.

    The family is not entitled to any money. There is no justifiable reason they should be.
    You can't compensate them for their loss with money. It's not appropriate here to put a dollar price on the loss of their loved one. They also don't "own" their son.

    If person A kills person B, it makes no sense for Party C to have to give money to Party D as a result of that.
    Person A isn't paying the money, and person B can't receive the money because they're dead.
     
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  2. notme

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    Again.. the "little homicide" is something a far right wing person made up. I told you before, and you
    This is simply how the far right wing, and surprise surprise white people dehumanize a minority when killed under obviously wrong reasons for the sake of basically saying his life did not matter. You lot can not help yourself.

    You indeed never said the exact words that his life did not matter.
    You do constantly put in an equivalent, as I put in bold.
    You can't help yourself. It's systemic.
     
  3. TheAngryLiberal

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    Bullshit! if it isn't, Cops know it's open season on them. This little Angel Adam Toledo was out with his buddy at 2:30am shooting at Cars and when the Cops showed up they ran. The Parents of Adam Toledo, his choice of Friends and actions and Liberals such as yourself who've made it impossible for Police to do their Job are responsible for his Death. Had this been a White Teenager that was shot by the Cops, You Liberals wouldn't give a Rats Ass over his Death and this Thread wouldn' NEVER! been started.
     
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    it's entirely irrelevant to the shooting of this unarmed and complying suspect.
    irrelevant. you don't lose your constitutional right to life because of this.
    I am not a liberal. Nobody is responsible for his death other than the person who executed him, which would be the officer. His prior bad acts are entirely irrelevant.
    you look silly when you try and label people you don't know. I am likely more conservative than you are.
     
  5. Buri

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    Now you're dishonest about how he got his nickname. No one forced that idiot into a gang. No one forced him to run around with a weapon shooting at cars with his gang friend. You are patently dishonest about his being a gang member because you have a fetish of some kind for criminals. We're not safe with people like him or you destroying the lives of innocent a law abiding Americans.
     
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    The victim was well lit up. Americans have a right to bear arms.
    So far I see no evidence that the victim fired his personal defense implement, or even had one. And, perhaps cops think they have a right to shoot down anyone they suspect of bearing a personal defense implement.
     
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    An estate is an estate. Nobody has claimed they "owned" their son. What happens to the big pile of cash after I awarded it to them wouldn't matter in the least to me.
     
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    Well! you're entitled to your wrong opinion, but that ain't bringin back Adam Toledo. Had his Parents been better at parenting instead of letting him become the Juvenile delinquent he was, he'd be alive right now. Stupid is as Stupid does and you lose your Constitutional Right to life when you're Stupid. The Cop also has a Constitutional Right to Life and so far 19 of them have been murdered by Gunfire in 2021.
     
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    More innocent cops get killed every year than “innocent” suspects, but the MSM doesn’t care.
     
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    Pff. It's on his twitterfeed. https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1382811697279295493
    The guy is a right wing fanatic, known to spread misinformation.
    As far factcheckers are able to find: he mentioned the nickname first.
    And how can you argue that I am dishonest? What are the facts according to you?

    And where is the prove of him being in a gang? The cops ones said it, but had nothing to back it up. The kid got no prior convictions etc.
    All you got is dehumanizing a kid for 90% of the time. It's systemic. You can't help yourself.
    It's all clearly meant to argue that his life does not matter.

    Better yet. Nobody forced the cop to shoot an unarmed kid with his arms up.
     
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    I didn’t provide an opinion. I pointed out the shooting, as clearly seen on video, was illegal.

    You can hate the constitution all you want. Thankfully, it nor the law gives a **** that you don’t like it.

    Where in the constitution does it say this?

    why do you keep pretending any other situation had any relevance to this shooting?
     
  12. Buri

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    Yeah, he was in a gang. We know it and his buddy admitted it! Man, you’ll do anything and say anything to help criminals. Is shooting at cars while in a gang a humanizing effort? Is that what made him who he was? Tell me about how human he was while shooting at people, let me get some popcorn.
     
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    When I was 13 years old, I knew Guns can kill people and I also knew that shooting a Gun at People can kill them. Adam Toledo knew that what he and his buddy were doing, but they did it anyways. Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword. Hard lesson for a 13 year old, but he was on the path to killing someone eventually.
     
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    the parents of the kid are most responsible

    cops are not robots, your request that they be so is not possible to fill
     
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    Republicans? We are discussing a city run by Democrats. The Democrats that run Chicago apparently have no regard for life or they would clean things up.
     
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    The Democrats didn't pass the drug laws, and most urban crime in the whole USA is supported by the drug laws.
     
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    I asked you to prove it, and you're declining.
    I do everything to point out that again all your posts about this kid is purely aimed to dehumanize a child.
    How about you read your own post and notice it's 100% smear now. Nothing else.
    It's on par with saying his life did not matter.

    You're just smearing a child, yelling his life did not matter,... so it's not about a cop who executed a child who did what he was told, and put his hands up.
     
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    Saying cops are not robots, is just you making an excuse that the cop was indeed totally wrong with executing an unarmed kid with his hands up.
    Saying cops are not robots, is just you saying cops have zero accountability and can do whatever.
     
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    The parents should be jailed. The kid was a victims of bad parenting. The cop is a victim of mindless militants who want cop blood for any reason.
     
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    "any reason" = executing an unarmed kid that complied to commands of stop running and raise your hands.
    the euphemisms used are a total joke.

    "not a robot" idem dito.
     
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    anything other than unreasoned hate of police to offer?
     
  22. notme

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    The "executing an unarmed kid that complied to commands of stop running and raise your hands" is a perfectly sound reason.
    Dunno how you're able to cook that into unreasoned hate. Sounds exactly like you demand that a civil servant got zero accountability.

    Do you also pay your plumber to just do as (s)he pleases? Or do you just also shrug when he destroys all your pipes in your entire house and let him go home with a full paycheck? I think not.
     
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    The cop in the capitol never even asked Ashli to stop and put her hands up. He just shot her, cold blood, in the chest.

    If that's the reigning logic for killing someone, I see no logical reason to say the officer was wrong here.

    Let the liberal hair-splitting begin. We will see all sorts of justification for their different treatment of the two incidents, but in the end, it will all boil down to, "it's okay to shoot a Trump supporter dead for committing literally any crime, but not anyone who is a protected liberal class of person for committing the same crime".

    Skin color matters, and liberals damn well mean that. Until Tim "Oreo" Scott speaks.
     
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    that idiot smeared himself when he was in a gang and out shooting at cars. he dehumanized himself by being in a gang and out at 2:30 am shooting at people. There is nothing you can make up about him that would make him appear human. Criminal fetishes are really strange.


    What part of shooting at people makes him MORE human, may I ask?
     
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    You're smearing him claiming he was in a gang.
    You're casually ignoring that you can't prove it.
    that is your most fanatic way to dehumanize a minority saying his life did not matter yet.
    I wonder if you can do more.

    The cop shot at an unarmed child with his hands up. He was the only one who shot at anybody.
    Yet he is "humane" because he executed a child whose life did not matter according to you.
     

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