CDC now saying comorbidity deaths NOT COVID deaths, lol.

You are trying to minimize the effect of COVID, which will make people not get the vaccine, that will kill them

Most people who die of "old age" die of something they catch while they are old and weak, does that mean that nobody dies of old age?

 

NONSENSE!!

You need to go back and read that conversation in which you so rudely inserted yourself, and you need to ultimately apologize because you have wholly misrepresented my position and were a first class jerk in the process. There is a legitimate discrepancy in how deaths are counted and I provided a very credible and non biased source that spoke with a Medical Examiner for a county in Wisconsin, and he did a great job of explaining why he reported slightly lower death numbers in his county than did the state for that county. It was not a discussion about minimizing the effects of Covid, and at no point did I imply that legitimate Covid deaths are drastically lower. In fact, I have made no attempt whatsoever to quantify those differences. Just because I am pointing at maybe 10% lower death number, that says not one thing about getting a vaccine. Many people have died, and I have said nor implied anything to the contrary. To pretend like nobody can point out legitimate discrepancies because in your estimation it may cause someone to not get a vaccine is nothing more than nonsensically emotive B*llsh*t. Your cry for censoring me is DESPICABLE and weak minded.

Just because slightly higher death numbers MAY increase some peoples odds of getting a vaccine is not a reason that people can sit there and completely misrepresent the process. If you read that conversation, you will see that I thoroughly proved my point.

 

Quote: I have predicted virtually everything about covid accurately

Huuuuuum, what about when Sweden would achieve Herd Immunity?

 

Were we also deceived by Big Pharma, and their salespeople?

 

I didn't predict that.

 

I don't believe the way to record the death cases has changed. However, the new CDC director certainly made some clumsy statements.

 

There you go. A Trump one or a Cheney one? It can make a lot of difference re credibility!

 

The BIG question; Were said 223 deaths classified as Covid19 deaths regardless if some have died of other causes?

Answer; I don't know, and the OP doesn't know

HOWEVER,

As I stated......

Here's how Covid19 deaths are coded in Michigan;

ICD–10 U07.1.............died of Covid19

or

U07.2............. died of other causes, however, Covid19 was an underlying or related cause of death.

https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/Provisional/CvdTable1.asp

Thus, let's assume 100 deaths in Michigan were classified as Covid19 deaths, and as per the following breakdown;

ICD-10 U07.1; 95 died of Covid19

ICD-10 U07.2; 5 deaths; 2 kidney failures, 3 heart attacks, and Covid19 was an underlying or related cause of death

CLAIM; Out of said 100 deaths, 3 died of a heart attack....................TRUE!

 

SHE, ND's Health Official stated in the video that many who died of pneumonia most likely died of Covid19. Thus, according to her, the number of Covid19 deaths in ND was UNDERCOUNTED, and no doubt, her statement will be discredited by the mentally sick people.

 

Those should be reported in the Covid-caused deaths, then. It's already such a big number anyway...

 

Nothing in your post is meaningful.

 

but everything in my post was correct. Whereas, everything in yours has been proven incorrect.

 

In a bigger way than we were deceived by Perdue and other pharma companies with the opioid fiasco.

 

A meaningless post cannot be "correct". It simply remains meaningless.

 

There really hasn't been a clear universal standard. My state looks at the death certificates. COVID has to be listed in the Number 1 or Number 2 COD slot for the death to put a point on the board. When our local numbers go up, it is because of a death weeks before as there is a long lag in reporting those.

 

This is true. State counts are probably not consistent. Consistency is good. In fact, they should count them the exact same way that historical flu deaths have been counted, just to make that an apples to apples comparison.

 

And on top of all of this is the reports and evidence that some of the COVID tests routinely produce false positives. Screws up the data big time.

 

Here's Michigan's

Total Deaths by Cause and Sex, Michigan Residents, 2018

published by Michigan's Department of Health & Human Services

https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/deaths/DXCause113.asp

What's wrong with their annual report?

 

In fact, to fully and impartially analyze 2020's excess deaths, we're going to need the State's 2018/2019/2020 Mortality Annual Report,

Example; https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/deaths/DXCause113.asp

 

If you want to have reliable universal data I suppose. I am more interested in my local trends. deaths in NYC compared to deaths in my city really has no relevance to me. I just want to know how bad it is locally today compared to how bad was it a week or a month ago. Only 3 new cases reported yesterday so hopefully all the efforts to push our vax numbers up will pay off. Ours is one of the areas that has a high vax rate compared to most of the state.

 

but it wasn't meaningless. It pointed out that your post was scientifically inaccurate. Like every other post you make regarding science.

 

I don't know and don't care, because it's irrelevant to the main point, which was that the hype last year was tracking any death where the person had COVID as a COVID death, and now the CDC director has reversed course for partisan reasons. That's the point of the thread. I'm not familiar with Michigan's numbers and honestly don't give a crap, because it's a red herring.

 

Question; Were the 223 cases classified as Covid19 deaths?

 

According to the CDC director on CNN, no, not all of them. She failed to provide an accurate count, but did establish that she views COVID deaths differently than liberals did all last year.

Thanks.

 

What are the complications of Covid19?

• Pneumonia

• Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS)

• Acute Liver Injury

• Acute Cardiac Injury

• Secondary Infection

• Acute Kidney Injury

• Septic Shock

• Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation

• Blood Clots

• Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children

• Chronic Fatigue

• Rhabdomyolysis

https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-complications#1-13

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EXAMPLE OF DEATH CERTIFICATE

1. Patient was hospitalized for Covid19, and after 4 days in the ICU, patient died of Acute Liver Injury/Failure

Republican Death Certificate; Died of Acute Liver Failure, Period!

Democrat Death Certificate; Died of Acute Liver Failure DUE TO COVID19

CDC.....Died of Acute Liver Failure DUE TO COVID19