The Capitol ‘armed insurrection’ narrative is crumbling

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  1. Ddyad

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    Can you point out where in the definition of the word “insurrection” that limitation exists?
     
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    You mean the one that was crawling thru a window.
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    I cannot believe there are still lefties out there saying that the protestors killed a Capitol police officer.
    If there'd been a right wing insurrection, with that lax of security, everyone would have damned well known it. This was not an insurrection. Riot? Maybe.
     
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    Besides the preplanned attack on places like parler, the lack of protection, the timing of the attack.... yeah it was an insurrection alright. More specifically an auto-golpe.
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    So that means death right even though the police were behind her.
     
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    Change the location to your house, what say you then?
     
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    I like that. You seem to be saying that it wasn't an insurrection because, in your opinion, the right-wingers are more competent insurrectionists than that.

    It's actually not common for such plans work out quite as imagined or intended. Certainly there were people there attempting far worse than a simple riot. They just weren't as well prepared as they thought they were.
     
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    Leftists are much better at it. $2 billion in property damage last summer alone.
     
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    And who has the most serious charges? John Sullivan... a left wing radical. The feds have already confiscated over 90K from him and have charged him with:
    https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol...ol-siege-defendant-who-sold-video-to-cnn-nbc/

    Frankly I am shocked that they are actually going after him. Watching the MSM lionizing the scumbag after the event was revolting. Wonder if the MSM will change their narrative now that the elites have decided to take him down. I mean those of us not listening the to the MSM knew all about John Sullivan's actions months ago.... just like we knew that the Wuhan lab was the probable source of the Covid. It is hilarious watching the "fact checkers" deleting their pants on fire diagnosis from months ago given "new" information. I don't believe a damn thing they say any more. Everything they do and everything they say is for the political gain of the most corrupt people on the planet.
     
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    Why are you arguing points that I haven’t made? I was merely correcting another poster on his facts, or lack thereof.

    In any case, we can agree or disagree on the semantics at the end of the day, there were illegal acts committed, the perpetrators are being hunted down and prosecuted. As they should be.

    ...waiting for the Democrats around here to say the same thing about all the illegalities perpetrated by the Left. Instead, their party is letting BLM and antifa thugs go free, assuming they arrest them at all.

    The double standard is pathetic
     
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    And I am correcting your facts, or lack thereof, in that your response answered the question the poster asked.

    I don't think ANY antifascists were arrested. Which might mean one of two things: either there was a deep-state conspiracy including cops (which, for the effects of the conspiracy theory, and only for that... are evil), or there weren't any. I bet you're for the conspiracy theory, am I wrong?

    But I have heard NOBODY even try to excuse any illegal acts committed by anybody. Your response, on the other hand, was "they didn’t kill any policemen". What is that if not an attempt to excuse illegal acts? Your argument now seems to be that it was irrelevant and not related to the question you were responding to... Yeah... right!

    If you don't want people to call you out, I suggest you be more consistent.
     
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    sorry, I said one thing, that no policemen were killed by protesters, to which you never refuted.

    you do realize that to correct a fact you have to do more than set up a strawman right? Goodness, the logic is weak in this one.

    no idea what or who you’re even talking about here. Start making sense buddy, it’d help.

    extrapolating a fact correction to mean whatever you want to mean. Congratulations, you just keep winning the logic failure award. If you want to know what I think from a fact correction you can ask buddy. It’s not that hard. In point of fact I’ve said my piece on this topic before but Democrats around here keep getting basic facts wrong which are worth correcting.

    no policemen were killed by protestors.

    That does not mean I think illegal acts are okay. It does not mean I’m a bible thumping evangelical gun toting confederate flag waving evil right wing fascist, it does not mean I’m a space alien invading the planet. It does not mean what you’d like it to mean just because it’s convenient for your illogical argumentation to be a little less illogical.

    So if you want to argue something with me I’d suggest you try a lot harder because all you’re doing right now is epic failing
     
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    What I very effectively refuted was your contention that that answered the poster's question. Or that it even had any relevance to that question or this thread. It did not! As I showed on my first response to you. The fact that no cops were killed is no more relevant to Trump and his cultists having attempted to overthrow a legitimately elected president (i.e. "insurrection", i.e. the topic of this thread), than the fact that the insurrection failed.

    And, unless you can state some other point your response was intended to make, your strawman has been rebutted.

    Thanks for playing...
     
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    where did I contend that that answered the posters question.

    you lose
     
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    So you're admitting that you didn't have a point.

    You can take this episode as a life-lesson: when you participate in this forum (or any forum, for that matter), having a point avoids posters from making fools of themselves.

    Carry on...
     
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    I would like to hear an objective account of what really happened that day from someone who feels this was not an insurrection and no harm was done.
     
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    NWO does not have much else left than war to make people give up their liberty.
     
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    my point was to correct the poster on factual information. That’s not allowed unless I have a political point tied to it? Hahaha how ridiculous

    run off now, go make your strawmen, knock em down and think you’re a great debater. Lol
     
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    Oh, look at you -- "Oh yeah? Prove it wasn't an insurrection!!!". Cute.

    Before that, why don't you demonstrate to the class how what happened that day can honestly be said to fall under a valid definition of "insurrection"?
     
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    The question is what was it? Are you afraid to answer that? What was the intention of the people who forced their way into the Capitol building, who broke windows, who were seeking lawmakers (some with handcuffs), and who were screaming "hang Mike Pence"?

    Why don't you just answer the question? Honestly and in accordance with the facts.
     
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    A dead nerve since this redundant regurgitation is still being passed mouth to mouth from people that have marbles missing.
     
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    No, just giving you a chance to make your side of the issue clear which apparently you can't do.
    Usually the person making the claim is the one that needs to present facts to support their idea

    Now I will take the opportunity to explain that I feel it is an insurrection because many of the people there were violently breaking the law with the purpose of overturning (resisting) the election for President of the US. The ball's in your court wise guy

    1. an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/insurrection
     
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