How can we fix this? Can it be fixed?

I didn’t say you were. I said that your posting history indicates you don’t have a problem with dishonesty given how in the tank you are for the liberal agenda.

 

Lol. Same result. Operator error.

There aren't any alternative facts, regardless of what Conway thinks.

 

On that we agree. So just to clarify here when AOC said it was more important to be morally right than it is to be factually correct... do you agree with her or think she’s as much of an evil bitch as I do?

 

Manafort was not exactly making money when he handed over strategic regional polling data to Konstantin Kalimnik, a known FSB senior officer. What he was doing was paying off a $10 million debt he owed to an oligarch named Oleg Deripaska, using Kalimnik and a former Russian spy named Victor Boyarkin as go-betweens. Go ahead, look it up. The polling data was to, in Manafort's words, "make us whole" with Deripaska.

 

The Banality of Democratic Collapse

America’s democratic experiment may well be nearing its end. That’s not hyperbole; it’s obvious to anyone following the political scene. Republicans might take power legitimately; they might win through pervasive voter suppression; G.O.P. legislators might simply refuse to certify Democratic electoral votes and declare Donald Trump or his political heir the winner. However it plays out, the G.O.P. will try to ensure a permanent lock on power and do all it can to suppress dissent.

But how did we get here? We read every day about the rage of the Republican base, which overwhelmingly believes, based on nothing, that the 2020 election was stolen, and extremists in Congress, who insist that being required to wear a face mask is the equivalent of the Holocaust.

I’d argue, however, that focusing on the insanity can hinder our understanding of how all of this became possible. Conspiracy theorizing is hardly a new thing in our national life; Richard Hofstadter wrote “The Paranoid Style in American Politics” back in 1964. White rage has been a powerful force at least since the civil rights movement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

 

I believe there are two problems here:

1. Trump is not only incompetent, he is narcissistic and evil. That makes him dangerous (as he wields too much power).

The only fix for this is for enough people in power to act aligned with their oath to the Constitution and not the man. This will be very difficult because, as you mentioned, there are still a considerable number of people willing to stand with him on nothing more than fear about their own position being under threat of cancel culture (as they did Cheney and will probably do to Romney).

Another possibility, however remote, is him being found guilty in a court of law and incarcerated. That may or may not remove the possibility of him holding elected office in the future. I can't think of anyone of his stature that has actually served time in prison. Maybe there's some wiggle room in which he won't be imprisoned but loses the possibility of running again.​

2. The election process may be faulty on some level (which has caused doubt, mistrust and animosity).

The fix for this is a bit more complicated because there are no nationwide procedures, just 50 different sets of rules. Further, the pandemic created a need for election officials to prepare for an unprecendented number of mail-in ballots. This has lead to some doubt because the processes "seem questionable" solely because they are not the same as what we know about our own state's election procedures.

I believe it is fair to audit election processes with the goal of ensuring they are fair, reasonable and timely; NOT to assuage the internal pain of a sore loser who has jeopardized the foundation of our country and what it stands for.​

 

She's a whackjob. So what?

 

I'm satisfied with looking at the offenses Manafort's serving time for. Mueller's team did a very thorough job of investigating, and brought no charges related to the election.

 

I disagree Mr. Negative

You haven't noticed that fascists in our society are apolitical people claiming to be against fascism. Was it primarily republican authoritarian politicians that closed down society and the economy? You haven't been seeing past your partisanship.

Don't be silly. Because the inner cities are falling apart doesn't mean the rest of the country is. If you live in an inner city, just consider moving to a better place. 99% of the U.S. land mass is a better place than the inner cities.

Probably true in the inner cities. They have the wrong leadership. They need law and order and, instead, they have tolerance for crime.

Time for you to go apply for a visa to go somewhere else. I like it here outside the inner cities. There is no place I would rather be than the U.S.A.

 

The problem is that her colleagues in Congress don't treat her as one.

 

Hard to refute a fact free myth.

 

It doesn't take five million less than 200k in the right places will do it every time. Oh and your side sent out millions into the either.

 

That associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, was recently sanctioned by the Biden administration, which said last month that Kilimnik had “provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy.”

So.......we know Manafort provided Kilimnik with information he passed on to Russian intel agencies. The motivation for both Manafort and Russia is worthy of discussion. For Russia it could easily be kompromat of Trump. Something to be held over him to prevent him from making certain foreign policy decisions. Perhaps Putin could have gotten the message across he wanted Trump to say Russia didn't meddle in the election when the two met in Helsinki.
The larger point being Billy the Bagman's "exoneration" claim was an outright lie.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...t-linked-to-russia-was-a-state-department?amp

Mueller omitted this interesting and relevant piece of information from his report. Because Mueller’s team wasn’t interested in actual truth, and we’re simply a bunch of dishonest partisan hacks.

 

I quit reading your posts long ago as any kind of legitimate opinions, now I occasionally read them for crude entertainment, kind of seeing how far off the track of reality you will go.

 

Tribalism is not fixable. The country is divided and too many people view the opposition as the enemy.

US vs Them is far too entrenched in the american fabric...

 

Enemies of democracy like the people who stormed the Capital on Jan. 6, and those 147 Repub congressmen who support them, ARE my enemy.

 

Manafort's blanket pardon seems to be keeping federal and state investigators at bay. His convictions were all on financial crimes.

 

LOL
You're half right. The pardon only applies to federal charges.

 

Then I guess there have been no state charges, because as far as I can find out, he isn't under investigation.