Susan Collins to support breaking Jan. 6 commission filibuster

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) will vote against a filibuster that would block the formation of a commission to examine the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, The Hill and Politico reported Wednesday.

    The moderate Republican wants a commission, but isn't sold on the House-passed bill that would create the commission in its current iteration. Still, moving it forward gives her the opportunity to make a couple of potentially key revisions, including having the chair and vice chair of the committee jointly appoint staff to avoid tipping the panel predominantly toward Democrats, as the GOP fears. Her other change involves disbanding the panel 30 days after it submits final report, rather than the 60 set by the House bill.

    Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) are on board with Collins' changes, Politico notes, and Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio) may be next in line, but that still wouldn't get to the 60 votes necessary to prevent a filibuster.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/susan-collins-support-breaking-jan-221659790.html

    Well, good for her, and Mitt and Lisa and whoever.... Something has to give to get Washington going again. Her amendments seem reasonable enough to me... don't see how staff can tip a panel, but OK...

    And FFS, if you cannot agree on a commission to investigate an insurrection attempt from 5 months ago, what's possibly left?? A commission to investigate if the sun rises in the east?? (McConnell won't support that kind of SOCIALISM)

    Chuckie says he's bringing this to the floor before the Memorial Day recess (I.E. 2 days left)... Fun times...

    Does this bill beat the filibuster and get an actual vote this week?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many investigations on Benghazi?
    How many investigations on emails?

    But an actual attempt to stop one of the most important democratic functions doesn’t even need a single one...

    The Republican Party has abandoned democracy.
     
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    The odds are very high that Romney will follow Collins...and perhaps Murkowski as well.

    Who else?
     
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    I really haven't followed this outside of reading the headlines now and then. Last I heard the commission was to be made up of 7 democrats and 4 republicans which in my opinion certainly isn't a bipartisan commission. If this is the objections the GOP is making, it is certainly understandable.

    Unlike the Watergate and the 9-11 commissions, there's no trust between parties in today's modern political era of polarization, the great divide and the mega, ultra high partisanship. I'm fairly positive that the Democrats will try to make this look like a coup where everyone entered the capital with guns blazing killing thousands and placing anyone left alive in concentration camps while the Republican try to make it look as if nothing happened. Such is our politics these days.

    I suppose it is what it is. These days I trust no one, no elected official in Washington to not bend, spindle, mutilate these things for partisan advantages. Being all we have now in Washington are party firsters, I won't believe a word of what the final report says, from either side.

    So let them do whatever they want. Let justice continue to arrest, book, charge and bring to trial all those involved and throw the book at them. What we don't need is a very partisan congress getting involved for purely political reasons. I have trust in the DOJ, but no trust at all for those in congress of either chamber or of either party. Party hacks one and all.
     
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    Nope.... McCarthy reportedly got nearly everything he asked for during the negotiations, but still won't support it..

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    The structure of the commission is almost an exact replica of the 9/11 Commission. Both bodies consist of 10 members, five selected by Democrats and five by Republicans. Interestingly, the president appointed the 9/11 Commission’s chair. The speaker of the House and the Senate majority leader are to jointly pick the Jan. 6 Commission chair—but there’s no role for President Biden here.
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    https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-jan-6-commission-bill

    Reading the detail of what I posted in the OP, Collins reportedly only has only 2 changes from the House bill...

    1. The chair and vice chair of the committee jointly appoint staff = Fine
    2. Disbanding the panel 30 days after it submits final report, rather than the 60 set by the House bill. = Who cares, but fine...

    Neither of those should be deal breakers on either side...

    The T**** wing of the GOP CANNOT support this, and the reasons are as obvious as the sun....
     
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    Really? How many investigations on russia collusion? What does an investigation have to do with democracy?
     
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    This is showboating by democrats and anti-Trumpers. There are already dozens of investigations and the Congress critters have already been warned this commission may interfere but hey, what’s another useless clown show while America folds under Biden’s bad leadership and congress accomplished nothing.
     
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    I hope Ben Sasse would be on board with this...
     
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    Let the DOJ do their job, the last thing I want is a bunch of mega, ultra high partisans from both parties shouting their ultra high partisans views on this on TV around the clock, 24/7.

    Everything these days are partisan political motivated. We all know what happened, a lot of folks have forgot and filed it under ancient history. But either way, congress will do that they're going to do as long as one or the other political party sees a political advantage in doing whatever. If no political advantage, they wouldn't do it. I don't trust anyone in congress. only 33% of Americans said they had a great deal or fair amount of trust in Congress. Here's why.

    To regain America’s trust, Congress needs to put country first

    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/202...f-representatives-senate-disfunction-politics

    This committee if it happens will be just another partisan political show. Just let DOJ do its job. Keep politicians out of it.
     
  10. Egoboy

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    The DOJ is limited in their scope to criminal activity... 1/6 was lots of criminal activity in support of political goals.... the 2nd part needs to be fully understood and that's not a job for the apolitical DOJ...

    If this bi-partisan committee doesn't happen, the D's will put together a "Select" committee (I.E. Benghazi) with nothing but their members.... THEN you will see political and have zero say in the matter.

    This is (marginally) better...
     
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    Russian collusion was a republican investigation...but good example.
     
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    Trespassing! Oh, the horror!
     
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    If someone broke smashed your window and entered your house and beat you with a flag pole, smeared feces in the wall and stole your laptop; would that be just trespassing or would other charges be applicable?
     
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    But but but, we were told all year that violence is free speech by the lefties!
     
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    I take it you approve of the jackboot Biden admin keeping people in solitary and no bail for simple trespassing.
     
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    Some of it was a government investigation. Some of it was in the private sector. None of it was republican.
     
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    No you weren't. Now back to my question that you didnt answer.

    If someone broke smashed your window and entered your house and beat you with a flag pole, smeared feces in the wall and stole your laptop; would that be just trespassing or would other charges be applicable?
     
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    The Mueller investigation wasn't Republican?
     
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    What ever is going to happen and it will totally political either way. Who to believe? Easy, Democrats will believe Democrats, Republicans will believe Republicans, nothing gained there. Independents will probably roll their eyes and say, here we go again.
     
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    I'm an Independent (unregistered). I will read whatever report is generated with the default stance that it will be primarily true, based on interviews and sources. Combined with what I saw with my own eyes that day, it will not be a frivolous read and will not make the previous administration look good. Nothing that can be done about that...

    If that's political to you, nothing that can be done about that either...
     
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    Just more of the same old, same old.... dog-and-pony-show.jpg
     
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    You were told lies by your fake news sources.

    No one says violence is free speech that is worth anything. Violence in all forms should be condemned.

    Now, care to post an honest post?
     
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    There was more than trespassing. Honest, informed people are able to admit that. I encourage you to join us.
     
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    :roflol:

    "simple trespassing"

    Yeah, Right...:bored:

    Anyway, back on-topic to Collins:
    It really doesn't matter what she does if they don't get 10 Republicans, and that ain't gonna happen.


    "simple trespassing"?:roflol::bored:
     
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    This Congress abandoned the will of the American Nation, and I'd say that's worse. They started these infrastructure talks, for the first 100 DAYS! Where is it? This dog and pony show will only appease 15% of the people(I wish it were 0% but well, as you stated you support it.).

    Why can't we get a functional Congress that actually represents its people? Why do we have to accept crap for representation?
     
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