Ten to fifteen thousand US citizens stranded in Afghanistan. Unbelievable!

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  1. US Conservative

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    What about Ben?
     
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    Unless these 10-15,000 Americans are in the military and were forced to be in that medieval Islamic paradise I can't shed a tear for their "plight". If I walked my naked white ass pasted with $100 bills through South Side Chicago at 2 AM I'd likely get what I deserved too, huh? Taiwan had best start having some serious, SERIOUS talks with China regarding some sort of "reunification" cause if they're expecting the US to save their bacon they gonna be in a world of hurt.
     
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    I believe Ben's position has been that we should get out. Am I mistaken?
     
  4. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    A terrible oversight, then.

    If it were that simple to blame Biden and the current administration then that would be great. But I think that there's a systemic failure throughout the system. The fact that we don't even know if there are 10 or 40, 000 US citizens in Afghanistan, for example.

    I feel like a lot of the Americans are extremely partisan on both sides. It seems that every single mistake that a given administration becomes amplified into hatred of the leader.

    I think this is a tragedy as well and I made that clear in the OP. I think this is part of the reason why the sinking ship of the US is going down. It's almost impossible to think clearly and have a rational discussion with the mutual antipathy in the US. How could any administration actually think clearly with this kind of poisonous collective consciousness.
     
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    I hear ya, but the U.S. government's primary purpose is to protect American citizens. As Afghan cities starting falling like dominoes, it was apparent that the Afghan military was NOT up to the task. The U.S. should have been actively warning and assisting Americans there, as well as our Afghan friends, to GET OUT. We should have made sure that we had forces in place to maintain security in order to get Americans and some Afghans out. Biden didn't do any of that.
     
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    That's what I was saying yesterday. If US announced a pull out over a year ago, and actually started implementing it, why did these US civilians stay in Afghanistan? I understand essential embassy staff staying until ordered to evacuate, but other civilians.....I don't get it. Why didn't they get out? Are they Afghans, who have been given US citizenship during our 20 yr escapade there? If so, then I would understand, because they are basically locals with family ties etc

    Is it a primary purpose to protect civilians who choose to venture into a war zones? Protect our people in US? Yes, that is a duty of the government.
     
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    I'm starting the see a pattern.This botched evacuation was planned all
    along.Like I wrote ... Very similar to what happened when we left Baghdad.
    The Arab Spring was also a Narrative pushed by Hillary to
    accomplish the same kind of crap as in what BlackLivesMatter did in
    the U.S.Don't forget Obama minimizing Isis from the start as a mere
    JV squad.When fighting Isis we also Learned under Obama that Fighter
    pilots had to call in strikes { which took time }.Making for ease of escape by
    Isis.That went on w/o challenge by leftist military types and Obama flaks.
     
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    All part of the Democrat plan. When you look at their actions, like putting C19 patients into nursing homes and eliminating bail, you would think any teenager would know better, yet these are adults in charge. So, are they incredibly stupid, or is there another devious motive?
     
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    There is no way possible for the federal government to know exactly how many Americans are in ANY country.
     
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    They must be idiots, they believed Biden that it was highly unlikely the Taliban would take Kabul.
     
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    The focus of the Democrats is on ripping off the American people and persecuting their political opponents. They haven't the slightest interest in the fate of thousands of Americans in a foreign land.
     
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    I would love to know how many of those American citizens are dual citizen or ex-Afghanistani refugees that returned to Afghanistan. That might explain the mystery of why there are so many Americans in Afghanistan. Or I could be completely wrong. Simply bizarre that we don't know that. Who are these people??
     
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    Sad sack Lie.There was not a single soldier who lost their life
    in 18 months Prior to last weeks purposedly Botched Biden blunder.
    Trump assured that.That was part of his agreement with the Taliban.
    One dead soldier and all bets are off.He'll bomb the Hell out of the Taliban.
    Also no Re-hooking up with al-Qaeda.
     
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    It was OBVIOUS to everyone that the Afghan Army was NOT fighting as the Taliban took city after city. The only one that didn't see the obvious was our senile, crooked, and incompetent president.
     
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    Exactly what I'm wondering. I guess we will find out in due course, since everybody wants to know.
     
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    What "lie" did I make?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, not exactly but there's something a bit strange here don't you think? Where do these estimates come from?
     
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    No excuse for top brass under Biden to not know specifics.
    As in How many left behind.The Military is very good at numbers.
    They are after all bean counters.As in How many troops,how many died and
    how many not accounted for.
    Everything from Obama's top brass is a concerted LIE.
    LIke Obama's IRS.Like Obama FBI. And especially Obama's CIA under
    John Brennan { converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia }.
     
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    It became readily apparent that the Afghan Army was NOT stopping the Taliban. That's when the Biden Regime should have raised the alarm to Americans in the country that they needed to get out. They also should have put forces in place to assist in that endeavor. Furthermore, they should have taken the armored vehicles, aircraft, guns, etc., too. There's just one word to describe Biden's failure - CATASTROPHE.
     
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    I don't know. I suppose it's possible that our embassy had a good idea of how many were there, at least roughly.
     
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    Ask Trump.
     
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    That the Afghan Military { very highly paid } was not up to the task.
    Then explain why not a single soldier lost their life in 18 months
    prior to last week.That Afghan milltary is only as good as their ability
    to use air power.Plus effective Intel.
    I say Biden's pathetic Top Brass was denying the Afghan Force certain
    tools of engagement.I think General Jack Keane explained this in detail
    on Fox days ago.
     
  23. Melb_muser

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    Yes I'm sure that when someone applies to go to Afghanistan, it is officially noted because I imagine US gov wants to know who is living in "enemy territory".

    There might also be in a slip that they fill in when they enter Afghanistan for the first time - that the embassy knows about. Where they say roughly where they are...
     
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    If the Afghan military was "up to the task", why were they unable to hold a SINGLE city? They gave up Kabul without a fight. We can debate the reason they were not up to the task but they clearly were not based on the results.
     
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    You are gonna get serious talks no one remembers.
     
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