Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

A fetus isn't someone and isn't a human being, whether by law or by science(biology).

Your body your choice unless your choice harms the society. Why do you think some vaccines are mandatory and some are not?
If a virus isn't highly contagious AND deadly. There would be no talks of covid vaccine mandates.

A woman exercising her right to terminate pregnancy does not harm anyone one except herself and maybe people closely related to her.

 

You can insist on this until time stops. I disagree.

so killing a baby in the womb is like a vaccine? What disease does it prevent?

It harms the baby.

 

So EVERY women who is raped is UNINJURED ?? WHAT!???

Do you know that some rape victims are tortured, knifed, shot, beaten....did you think rape victims just pull up their pants and walk to the nearest hospital !!???!!!!!

UH NO...raped women are INJURED, they are TRAUMATIZED, some can't make decisions at the moment, maybe not for weeks....they may even be in a coma!....


But the complete and total lack of knowledge of what rape entails and the complete and total absence of compassion and/or understanding is the hallmark of Anti-Choicers.

 

THERE IS NO "BABY" TO HARM.

 

Medical and legal definitions disagree. What are you basing your option on?

A zygote is indeed new life but saying personhood begins at birth is not as black and white. Most of the science has that happening around the 9 week mark [source]. Legal personhood doesn’t typically occur until birth except in a few areas — typically injury from a third party.

The issue is if the government has the ability to force someone to sustain the life of another against their wishes, even while it is putting that individual in financial and medical risk. If the government can intervene in medical divisions between a person and their doctor. You believe this is acceptable?

 

Perhaps ALL men should keep quiet about abortions..........and for the same reason you make for Bdien.

 

1) That's a matter of opinion. I personally don't agree with borrowing/lending money for situations arising out of poor choices.

2) No, reaping what you sew would be no abortions at all. You would then 'reap' the pregnancy/child. Abortions are interference in that process.

 

The child cannot be unwanted unless she was raped.

The only way you can claim such a thing is to believe women don't know how babies are made.

 

1) You absolutely did, and continue to do so.

2) You CANNOT separate them! Since it's not possible to have a birth without a pregnancy! And women exercise their bodily rights when they choose to risk that pregnancy!

3) In trying to pretend that pregnancy doesn't have anything to do with birth, you are NOT ACCEPTING.

 

It is NOT my contention that men shall be silent on the issue of the right to life and abortion, it's not MY reason Biden should, it's yours. And then women cannot speak on war or vote on war.

 

Yes there is the UNBORN BABY. Sorry you don't get to change our language to suit your cause.

 

You don't get to change science to suit your cause.....

Call it what you want...it's legal to kill it.

 

Patently false by science and biology and embryology. It is a human life, a human being from the moment of conception when that life begins.

"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]

"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
[Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]

"The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Sadler, T.W. Langman's Medical Embryology. 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995, p. 3]

"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]

"Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity."
[O'Rahilly, Ronan and M?ller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}]

http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/ar...yoquotes2.html

"Recently, Dr. Robert George wrote an article outlining this whole topic in more detail. And if you want to really learn your stuff, pick up his excellent book entitled Embryo (I’m in the middle of reading it right now).

In his words:
“That is, in human reproduction, when sperm joins ovum, these two individual cells cease to be, and their union generates a new and distinct organism. This organism is a whole, though in the beginning developmentally immature, member of the human species. Readers need not take our word for this: They can consult any of the standard human-embryology texts, such as Moore and Persaud’s The Developing Human, Larsen’s Human Embryology, Carlson’s Human Embryology & Developmental Biology, and O’Rahilly and Mueller’s Human Embryology & Teratology.” – Dr. Robert George

“Human embryos, whether they are formed by fertilization (natural or in vitro) or by successful somatic-cell nuclear transfer (SCNT — i.e., cloning), do have the internal resources and active disposition to develop themselves to the mature stage of a human organism, requiring only a suitable environment and nutrition. In fact, scientists distinguish embryos from other cells or clusters of cells precisely by their self-directed, integral functioning — their organismal behavior. Thus, human embryos are what the embryology textbooks say they are, namely, human organisms — living individuals of the human species — at the earliest developmental stage.” – Dr. Robert George
- See more at: http://fallibleblogma.com/index.php/....n2q46hNU.dpuf

A New, Distinct Human Organism Comes into Being at Fertilization

It is undisputed that a new, distinct human organism comes into existence during the process of fertilization.[1] Scientific literature states the following:

• “The fusion of sperm and egg membranes initiates the life of a sexually reproducing organism.”[2]

• “The life cycle of mammals begins when a sperm enters an egg.”[3]

• “Fertilization is the process by which male and female haploid gametes (sperm and egg) unite to produce a genetically distinct individual.”[4]

• “The oviduct or Fallopian tube is the anatomical region where every new life begins in mammalian species. After a long journey, the spermatozoa meet the oocyte in the specific site of the oviduct named ampulla, and fertilization takes place.”[5]

• “Fertilization – the fusion of gametes to produce a new organism – is the culmination of a multitude of intricately regulated cellular processes.”[6]

The government’s own definition attests to the fact that life begins at fertilization. According to the National Institutes of Health, “fertilization” is the process of union of two gametes (i.e., ovum and sperm) “whereby the somatic chromosome number is restored and the development of a new individual is initiated.”[7] Thus, in the context of human life, a new individual human organism is initiated at the union of ovum and sperm. One textbook similarly explains: Human development begins at fertilization when a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoon) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to produce a single cell – a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.[8]

Thus, a new human organism is created before the developing embryo implants in the uterus – i.e., before that time at which some people consider a woman “pregnant.”

[1] See, e.g., Condic, When Does Human Life Begin? A Scientific Perspective (The Westchester Institute for Ethics & the Human Person Oct. 200, http://bdfund.org/wordpress/wpconten...ife_print.pdf; George & Tollefsen, EMBRYO 39 (200.

[2] Marsden et al., Model systems for membrane fusion, CHEM. SOC. REV. 40(3):1572 (Mar. 2011) (emphasis added).

[3] Okada et al., A role for the elongator complex in zygotic paternal genome demethylation, NATURE 463:554 (Jan. 28, 2010) (emphasis added).

[4] Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012) (emphasis added).

[5] Coy et al., Roles of the oviduct in mammalian fertilization, REPRODUCTION 144(6):649 (Oct. 1, 2012) (emphasis added).

[6] Marcello et al., Fertilization, ADV. EXP. BIOL. 757:321 (2013) (emphasis added).

[7] National Institutes of Health, Medline Plus Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary (2013), http://www.merriamwebster.com/medlineplus/fertilization (emphasis added).

 

If there is no baby there's no pregnancy. Pregnancy means there's a baby.

 

What in hell are you talking about?

 

reality.

If it isn't reality find one person in the 7 billion that live on this planet that did not start at conception.

I don't care when whatever authority you follow says a person becomes a person. I have to go to the most logical point and understanding the answer to my first comment in this post the most logical point is conception

This argument fails nobody's forced to be pregnant. Nobody forces anybody to become impregnated so if you don't want to be pregnant take the proper precautions.

I absolutely 100% support birth control and education.

 

1) This analogy was meant strictly for explicative purposes; how you, personally, feel about the practice that it analogizes, is irrelevant to the point. (And if it had been you, in the analogy, you would, then, have not gone to your friends asking for short-term loans, unless you are a hypocrite; incidentally, it often strikes me how much of any moral framework can be replaced, and what a better world we would have, as a consequence, if people followed the single principle: don't be a hypocrite).

2) But free will, allows the alternative choice of abortion. Even if you are contending that, as murder, abortion should be treated as a felonious criminal act: that is not what this law does!

So I will grant you only that, from your individual, moral perspective (& for those who share it) alone, it could be considered a case of reaping what one sows. But that begs the larger, more important question: should what anyone "reaps," be determined by someone else's moral beliefs, if those are not reflective of the society's?

 

I'm the only one quoting science. I can't call it what I want our common language calls it what it is a human being at the unborn baby stage of life. It is you who believes can tell others they cannot use that common language. Why is that?

 

That pic is both hilarious, and nauseating. As (very) straight female, the wrongness sends my spidey senses into hyper-vigilance/repulsion mode

 

1) Those of us who are opposed to (personal) borrowing always ensure we never have to. And we certainly refuse all requests for money from people who have created their own duress. Why should we work hard so that we never have to borrow money, only to have others live irresponsibly, then take our money? And what sort of friend would even try something that shitty anyway?

2) Abortion IS someone else's moral beliefs - and certainly not reflective of all of society's beliefs. The only thing which doesn't reflect someone's moral beliefs is zero interference. Leave it to nature to sort out. Is that what you want?

 

Holy hell .. look at the size of those feet! And I don't mean the four wheeler.

 

Yup! Exactly what caught my attention as well!

 

From looking at this picture of this man assuming it is a man. He might be a trans man meaning he's really female.

I think there's something wrong here some sort of illness. Maybe he's a vegan that'll make you look like a walking corpse too.

 

FFS
First you say that it's completely unique and then you admit there are "genetic makers" in the DNA. Well, no kidding, but you can't have it both ways. All DNA in humans match 99.9%. Fingerprinting is more unique.

 

What's your point because it does nothing to answer the question.