'Justice for January 6' rally

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    The psychic mechanisms that allow the MAGA to pose as victims rather than usurpers of democracy are the same as those that allowed the Einsatzgruppen to live on without remorse after WW2.

    The MAGA only need to convince themselves that their actions are justified, that the fraud is real and that those who do nothing against Biden are accomplices in his crime.

    All conspiracy theorists do the same thing: they discard all the information that contradicts what they think, and drink exclusively from that which supports their political opinions.

    55% of Republicans still believe, 9 months after the election, that Biden stole the victory from Trump.

    This is despite the fact that no tangible evidence could give them any hope that Trump's claims were true.

    And this belief makes perfect sense in the mind of a Trumpist who drinks in the propaganda of Steve Bannon, Newsmax, OAN and Fox.

    These networks will never do anything to attack the Big Lie because the ratings would plummet.

    The MAGA's only watch the networks that support their views and like this forum, systematically refute any facts that undermine their ideology.

    The good news is that the more radical they become, the more their ideas repel moderate independents, who are the largest political force in the country.

    And the liberals only need the support of 45% of independents to neutralize the Republicans politicaly.

    In short, we are witnessing the slow decay of American conservatism.
     
  2. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    Well stated..
     
  3. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Biden sidestepped the question by saying Antifa was "an idea, not an organization." Technically he's correct, but it was a dodge. When he was directly questioned about the violence he was blunt. Unless you read the interview or a report on it, you wouldn't know. Fox picked it up which is where I read it.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, cause BLM was responsible for Jan 6th?

    Your deflection is noted
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn’t judge 70 million people, I pointed out that those in jail currently WERE Trump supporters. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  6. Bowerbird

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    Why do you think it is propaganda? NYT Ana’s an international reputation for good journalism
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Ostensibly, they are.
     
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  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because it is all anti Trump.
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    Sigh! Robert - that is what is known as “confirmation bias”

    Just because you do not like it does not mean it is not true

    Everyone has a degree of confirmation bias - I too will often dismiss things posted on blogs or conspiracy sites - that is MY bias and in so doing I often miss some of the more hilarious and thigh slappingly funny rubbish out there. Just the other day I came across a beauty - apparently you can make your own Hydroxychloroquine by boiling organic oranges and lemons together. Who knew? I thought that was how you made Marmalade but there you go………
     
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  10. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    And we, who started after you and were more cautious with the rollout are now beating you with the vaccination rates
     
  11. Bowerbird

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    No exaggeration- gave you links
     
  12. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    from Wikipedia

    Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.
     
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    Nothing in any link said anything about hanging Pence. Please
     
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    Not really sure what that sentence fragment says but I'll take a shot at it. I already had Covid before any vaccinations so I have better immunity than your shot. So nobodies beating me to anything.
    But you might want to check on those 65% black and Latino Biden voters who are refusing the vaccine as well.
    ANd really should stop slurping up everything CNN is regurgitating since its usually just leftist garbage that always winds up being the idiotic left fake claims we have seen now for the last 6 years.
     
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    The “you” was generic to USA :roll:
     
  17. ToughTalk

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    What's the death count and destruction count between blm riots and the 1 Republican riot you keep gripping onto?

    Oh you probably don't wanna add that score up do ya?
     
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    That's because they are an object lesson...
     
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    Protest yes? Riot? You lose the message. And riots happened ever damn night with no clear messaging as to what they wanted or the change they wanted to see. It was just rage and bad faith players who like anarchy jumping on the band wagon.

    Blm if it actually gave a ****. Would have immediately distanced itself from the riots in their name. But they didn't. They embraced the violence and claimed it was necessary.

    And that's why that group lost me entirely. Antifa has just always been anarchist. They hate our society and want everything to be torn down and start new again..

    Jan 6 was a crowd that got into a frenzy a and caught up in the moment. But they burned nothing down and only one person died.

    It was a one off. Likely to not happen again and certainly when compared to the violence that had gone on consistently by those other groups,. Not even in the same ball park.
     
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    I think we are 90% in agreeance. The other 10% seems to be our view on Jan 6th, that wasn't as bad as the others. So it's ok. Even though it's intention was to subvert the constitution of the United States.
    Famous line from an addict "it won't happen again".
     
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    Many of the judges have engaged in questionable conduct, denying bail for flimsy or outrageous reasons, or imposing restrictions on defendants who are out on bail which go beyond the usual that one would expect for a crime that amounts to trespassing.

    Would the mob of aggressive protesters have gotten this treatment if they had been, for instance, Obama supporters or BLM activists?
    I don't know for sure but have my doubts.

    How long does someone deserve to be punished for trespassing and being part of a mob?
     
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  22. Bush Lawyer

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    Oh....really? How would you like some prick who broke and entered your Home, and then destroyed your property in your Home, treated?
     
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    Without Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Do you know what they have done to some of those dopes that walked around the Capitol Building? It's ridiculous. I'm guessing you don't know.
     
  24. MJ Davies

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    How do you know nobody was going to hang Pence?
    Were you there?
    Did you help orchestrate this riot?
    Do you have any knowledge about the plans for that day (were you an accessory after the fact)?
    Under what authority do you speak for the people present that day?
    Are you an attorney and covered by attorney-client privilege?
    If so, how many of the arrested Capitol rioters do you represent?
    If there is not attorney-client privilege, did those people confess to you that this was a prank and nobody planned to hurt our Vice-President?
     
  25. Bush Lawyer

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    I did not ask what you would not want done with them. Tell me what you want done with them, those blokes who broke and entered your house, those blokes who then destroyed the property in your house........those very self same blokes you would argue you could shoot on sight if you caught them at your home doing that.
     

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