Congratulations, Ron DeSantis. Great Job [rolling eyes]. Moron.

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    Mine? I haven’t posted any studies. All I did was post pull quotes of influenza studies YOU posted and claimed were studies of Covid.
     
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    All I’ve posted here is YOUR studies. Sober up. Have some coffee.
     
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    It’s. It’s big deal to all the unvaccinated till they are on a ventilator.
     
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    Get a life, you have nothing on covid . But the Trump complex is apparent.
    Now you’re even denying the conclusions ?
     
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    Nope. You just post part of them . Typical of your omissions. You fail to understand math and science.
     
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    You don’t know even what a control group is do you ?
    That’s hilarious.
     
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    I’m the most pro mask PF member. I’m months ahead of institutions like the CDC in analyzing data and offering correct mitigation strategies. Like N95 masks.

    I’m promoting honesty and following the empirical evidence when making public health recommendations.

    You posted studies on influenza while criticizing another PF member for posting studies on influenza. You were just…..WRONG. Deal with it. I’m out for now. You can make a mockery of science and your posts for a while on your own. . I’ll be around ready to correct further misinformation from you.
     
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    LOL! IOW, Nothing in your source supports your position. ;-)
     
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    IOW, you can not find anything from your own source to paste up to support your position.

    Again: "How does the spread of the flu virus differ?"

    I have to wonder why direct straightforward questions like that always seem to stump you. ;-)
     
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    Skip the ad hominem nonsense and just answer the question:

    "They are both viruses. How does the spread of the flu virus differ? Try to be specific." Ddy.

    Your source does not support your position.

    Tell the truth. It will only hurt for a second and you will gain some immunity from cross examination. ;-)
     
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    I hope I didn’t hurt your feelings with the truth. :) Why are you promoting poor public health. I’ve posted the answer to your question along with a reference. Not all viruses are the same nor react the same in trials. So, contrary to your posts, and one of several reasons is, flu vaccines have been around for decades which give inconsistent test results compared to Covid. That’s why Covid trials are needed.

    Look up what control groups in trials are for. Maybe you can enlighten yourself. You’re posting fraudulent claims and your posts support poor public health practices according to every medical research group. Now, complain again that the truth hurt your feelings.

    I’ll help you…
    “A control or control groupmay be defined as a group of clinical trial participants who do not receive the drug or treatment being investigated as part of the trial.” So, flu trials which are control group studies ( as stated in the reference) will not test for covid and mask use. How many times are you going to repeat the same old tripe. Do some research so you won’t have to feel so bad when you’re called out instead of complaining to moderators.
     
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    I wonder why you’re posting falsehoods and making fraudulent claims that are against all medical research recommendations. What is your motive ? Your questions have been answered by me and are available on any public health website.
     
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    Wrong. You didn’t even read the references. The trials used flu studies as a control study. In addition, the recommendations were formulated using Covid Trials with masks. You guys babble about anything showing your poor judgement. The same goes for your n95 mask. You pretend you know more then medical research who makes the recommendations. I’m referencing* them. While you guys have only one plan…..sew doubt in medical science. It’s laughable if we didn’t have so many hospitals filled with sick based upon the rights Trumpian delusions.
     
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    Nope….you continually select statements without posting the entire reference. The article I referenced included studies with Covid. But…you can’t include those which said flu studies were just control groups. Mainly because you don’t seem to know what control groups are. The fake news poster had only Flu trials. That’s hilarious crappola.. move on, you’re wrong……again. Go back to farming.
     
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    Type google, then quote “ how influenza differs from Covid”
    Then, you look for any reference that uses studies from ligit medical research findings and not fix news.
     
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    Nope. The pull quotes were from meta analysis of existing influenza and other pathogens studies.
     
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    They were not control groups. You can not use an influenza study as a control for a Covid study. That defeats the whole purpose of a control. LOL
     
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    I suppose you could just read it and not make up stories which you just did.
     
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    That’s wrong….
    I criticized studies with influenza and mask use ALONE.
    Only studies that include actual covid intervention is valid.
    I question you because you pretend to be a scientist while not following the advice of every medical research facility. You don’t even quote fairly. By all means, leave. You keep saying you’ll leave, them come back for more.
     
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    That’s a silly comment. You state you can’t use an influenza control group in a study of covid, yet you back a poster that claims a flu study only proves something about covid. Talk about scary delusional…..Tucker would be proud.
     
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    It’s apparent you don’t know what a control group is.
     
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    Not exactly. It is hardly a linear equation.
     
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    More woo woo. They specifically talk about measuring the number of covid cases affected by masking. That you can’t or won’t read it is another sign you are totally making up sht…..again.
     
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    Study #2 in your link uses mostly influenza and other pathogens as evidence. It is an evidence review, not a study of Covid and mask usage. It is an evidence review so uses NO controls. Here is another pull quote.
    Your #8 in your link is a systematic review of studies published before April 17, 2020. Here is a pull quote.
    Now guess what? There are no Covid 19 studies in this review. Why? Because no controlled peer reviewed studies of Covid and mask usage existed! There are 19 studies included in the review. Not a single one on Covid.

    Yet you posted a link and claimed every study in the link included studies on Covid. Well you are dead wrong. Nobody is surprised.
     
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