Why do we allow illiterate people to prattle superstitiously about science, "modern" or otherwise?

The facts are rather simple. Most people are simply taught or indoctrinated (via mass market educational systems) about what "science", "modern" or otherwise is, at whatever pitiable 6th grade level of rote training passes for "education" among our IQ-100 average society.

The end result is that you'll hear them prattling on about what they think "modern science says" (as though they're hearing voices and believe that "science is somehow talking to them), without having any of the intellectual capacity to even understand what that would actually mean.

It's worth mentioning that what they're calling "modern" to begin with is actually quite archaic - dating back as far as the 19th or 16th century using outdated Baconian methodologies and axioms which are as primitive and inferior in the 21st Century and Information age as alchemy or the "four humors" theory were in the 19th century.

Second, whenever someone prattles on about "science saying something to them", what they really just mean is this:

*They read some isolated little factoid (which in itself is debatable to begin with) from some article which used a "scientific" argument from authority fallacy. Then they immediately presume that this fact automatically substantiates some little pre-disposed conclusion that they've so quaintly drawn - often force-fed to them by the article itself, hoping they merely blindly repeat and regurgitate the conclusion by rote rather than actually critically analyzing it (when in reality it's only one of potentially infinite conclusions which could be drawn from the same factoid, let alone adding other, unmentioned factoids to the list).

A popular example would be the "scientific racism" of yore, such as how one could point out "lower average IQ among black demographics" (while ignoring any other potentially conflicting facts - such as higher IQs among black scientists or business executives than the "average" white person), then immediately hammer down the pre-supposed conclusion of "black inferiority" (despite the myriad of other conclusions that could be drawn, such as isolated IQ statistics being irrelevant since some notions of IQ are "outdated", or that standard IQ testing only measures a small aspect of human intelligence, which also includes emotional or other forms of intelligence).

So yeah, any time you see someone superstitiously prattling about what they think "science" or "modern science" is saying to them, treat it with rightful ridicule, contempt, and immediate skepticism.

 

Perhaps due to people like me being defined as "illiterate" by a segment of the population who use technical jargon as something like a buffer zone to keep non-experts from being able to comprehend and comment intelligently on their speciality????

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

Although I am no Theoretical Physicist there are a number of actual qualified Theoretical Physicists who rather like the basic idea presented in my blog as well as in this discussion.






Theistic Evolutionary Theory

 

My first observation is that you've misused the word superstitiously. There wasn't much effect after that...

 

Um, free speech?

 

"Why do we allow illiterate people to prattle superstitiously about science, "modern" or otherwise?"

Very good question!

 

Are we talking about widespread education in relation to critical thinking and analysis?

 

Ignoring prattle is healthy behavior.

 

oh yeh! doesnt get any better than the peeps that made the big bang and einerstein a religion, and now we are talking peeps with BS degrees sometimes MS, not so much PhDs!

 

IQ and 6th grade is a constant in your posts.
Your Freudian slip is showing.

 

The moment 'science' stops being about the possibility that what is 'known' is actually wrong, it becomes a religion, complete with the obligatory indoctrinated fanatics.

 

Creation science is a prime example.

 

Right, that's what's known as "Scientism" and the associated mumbo jumbo thereof.

There's already enough proof to assert the undeniably existence of one God, and any "evidence" or fabrications to the contrary are just pure denialism done because of idiots who just want to believe whatever idiocy they want to, and avoid having to come to term with existential facts and questions on the subjects of God, morality, eternity, and so on. The existence of God is fact, the existence of what passes for "evolution" among the unthinking and indoctrinated aspects of the populace is nonsense, plagiarism, and as old and unoriginal as Epicurus (the problem is that people who live like feral beasts with contempt for the intellectual and aesthetic inclinations of mankind can't be bothered to evolve their thinking beyond such bestiality and inferiority)..

Basically we need to get rid of the outdated 16th-19th century Baconian methodologies, which are merely blindly accepted and unchanging, that Scientistic rubbish is predicated on.

 

That's because Science has morphed into a religion for the twitterati. Science is supposed to be a process, and now it's merely a dogma with certain credentialed high priests interpreting the sacred studies for the faithful.

 

"Science" at one time was pushing the frontiers of human knowledge forward....nowadays it's more about paying your money for the "science" you need to push your agenda forward....sorta' like polls.

 

There's no scientific evidence that God exists. And God doesn't say, hey everyone, here I am. Personally I find the position invigorating that God hides his existence and that which is sacred from view. Maybe it is selfish of me, but the lack of evidence makes my certainty that God lives more valuable, and my relationship with him more special. But it is his choice. And I am inclined to believe that it is for a greater purpose than my petty jealousy. Perhaps it is to try men's faith, to see who the adversary will steal away, and how far they will go. It has been said that this life is probation. I believe that. Suffice it to say that warnings and testimonies are aplenty. Likewise the science of query and prayer as a means to personal proof, such that at any point along ones path one may employ those tools and leverage oneself onto a more firm foundation in the season thereof.

 

I am all for free speech. But it goes both ways. In a topical threaded forum like this, people should stick to the topic itself, and not try to use it for proselytizing and derailing a discussion based entirely on their religious beliefs. To me, somebody who is religious jumping into a thread about Evolution and screaming about Creation is just as wrong as an Atheist jumping into a religious based thread and screaming that they are all morons for believing in a "Sky Daddy".

Both are wrong, and acting like idiots. You are free to believe what you want, but beating everybody else up over it is just being an ass.