The Cool Down Is Coming

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  1. Tigger2

    Tigger2 Well-Known Member

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    Jeez.
    More water in the atmosphere does not mean more rain on the forests.
    Sigh.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember Boys & Girls

    Climate Changes Just As The Weather

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    Blame PeopleKind For
    All The Above too?
    I refuse to feel so insignificant not to apologize
    for all peoplekind.



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    The Medieval Climate Optimum
    The Bane of Global Warming Alarmist!





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    Urban areas don't have some sort of immunity from the increase in Earth's average temperature.

    When a region warms, the urban areas within that region are certainly affected.
     
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    There is not one single scientist that believes humans had that kind of impact before the industrial age.

    For the period after the industrial age to today, there is no detectable disagreement among scientists working on climate that anthropogenic climate change is happening.

    The level of agreement on this has been studied many times with the conclusion consistently showing a high level of consensus within science:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/

    A study this year has the following abstract:
    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966

    The idea that there is doubt within science about anthropogenic climate change is just plain NONSENSE.

    In fact, if anything there has been growing agreement that anthropogenic climate change is very real.
     
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    The climate change being discussed has to do with changes in Earth's average temperature over periods of years.

    While you are right that there are stupendously long cycles, what is happening today is not following
    Please attempt to support your claim that there is a world wide conspiracy of all the science related to climatology.
     
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    Will. I am certainly not claiming current climate change is natural. Not sure how you misunderstood me, but never mind.
     
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    Wow - I think I sent this to the wrong person entirely.

    I sincerely apologize.
     
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    I can't find any references to studies
    of geothermal activity. Can you?
    Advance THANK YOU if you do.


    The Arctic interaction of the North American plate
    with the Eurasian plate & temperature seems
    most interesting but, :( sadly it is not Man Made
    for the purpose of "diving for dollars" SCIENCE


    SUPPORT STATIC EARTH
    Stop Continental Drift :rant:

    Climate Change Is Man Made
    Science Tells Me It Is So.
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    If you have an argument of some sort, then state it and CITE IT.

    If you think there are important sources of heat not accounted for, then CITE THAT.
     
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    Just as I uploaded.
    I can find nothing on it.
    If you can aid me,
    gracias.
     
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    You have that backwards.

    Urban areas are 1 to 10 degrees warmer than surrounding undeveloped land. Tokyo is the 10 degree data point. When an urban area grows, it warms there. Measure the temp there and viola, "warming..." The warming of growing urban areas is the only organic (non fudge) warming your side has ever had.

    The fraud of global warming is the deliberate misinterpretation of the URBANHEAT SINK EFFECT on the surface ground temperature series, the only series that shows "warming" in the raw data.
     
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    I have never seen any scientist suggest plate movement is causing or could cause change in heating over time - climate forcing.

    The charts by the prominent centers show only one natural cause of change in heating - solar cycles.
     
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    You really went over the edge here.

    You have NO evidence of a conspiracy that could POSSIBLY be of the magnitude that you propose.

    AND, you are totally ignoring the science concerning climate.
     
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    This urban heat effect is not a climate issue.

    It's certainly the case that urban areas tend to be warmer. But, that isn't climate.

    And, no, the average temperature of Earth is measured in many different ways. NONE of those ways gives inordinate emphasis on urban areas. That would certainly be anti-science.
     
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    The Way Science Is Funded
    Most Commonly Requiring
    a Compatible scientific Conclusion.


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    Been There
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    Money

    Power

    Control

    Theft of $2 trillion that could have helped the real environment...
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I Object To Your
    Anti Avian Bigotry


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    Imagine BIRD
    Parrots may communicate at 5yo human level

    Processing, fathoming what mammalians
    can hardly fathom
    .


    Crocodilians a bit different.
    Not mammals.

    :rant: :rant:
     
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    No, you absolutely did NO such thing.
    It's just plain ignorant to ask someone on this board a question such as that and then think that ANY response, regardless of how correct it is, means ANYTHING.

    It's just a stupid exercise.

    If you think you have SCIENTISTS who advocate for some other method of differential heating, then JUST CITE THAT.
     
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    You have NO possibility of explaining how there could be a conspiracy of the magnitude that would be required.

    You have NOT found a way to coerce essentially every science organization in the entire world to LIE in LOCKSTEP.

    Besides, creating a lie that crosses so many scientific disciplines is essentially impossible, simply because not enough was known to allow anyone to figure out a set of lies of that breadth.

    Beyond that, it really is the case that not every single scientist is a bald faced liar.
     
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    You need to try for something beyond REALLY juvenile ad hom.
     
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    No, my answer is that you need to start listening to science.

    Period.

    All your hand waving is NOISE.

    And, this is NOT about what I know - it is about what is known the world over by the community of scientists who work in the numerous areas that affect climatology.
     
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    The number of (taxpayer funded) climate "scientists" is in the hundreds. Tens of thousands of real scientists have questioned Algore's amazingly idiotic fraud....
     
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    A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the (Conspiracy) Forum
     
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    Indeed, not one single "warmer" here can answer the question

    Why did Greenland freeze while North America thawed during the past million years?


    When you find one single believer in co2 based climate change with the intellectual courage to answer that question, let us know....
     
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    Do you mean geothermal activity over the last dozen decades? I.E that might be relevant to the current climate change.
    Just asking before I search for relevant material.
     

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