Will Biden threaten war to dodge the pressure of his failure?

the weather, covid, infrastructure, dreamers, the debt, the list goes on and on

the harder question is to find what Trump has not lied about

 

A fox news reporter asked Biden about deployment and was told that would be addressed another time. Then the reporter asked if Biden would take questions at that time about inflation. Biden was caught muttering "Stupid son of a bitch" to the reporter. later, he called the reporter and tried to bail out.

The guy is in so far over his head he's never going to gt above water- and is doing what he promised would not be tolerated, what he adamantly promised to immediately fire any staffer for doing.
When you find yourself in a position you are totally incapable of handling, desperation overrides the masquerade and things go to hell....

 

Weather, dreamers and infrastructure? I don't think so[/QUOTE]

 

You mean ignore the Ukrainian border like he has totally ignored our own Southern Border? Which people would you be more concerned with their safety....the Ukrainians or the Americans? Would you rather we send thousands of American troops to Ukraine or send them to protect biden's open southern border?

 

I can't see ties strong enough to go to war with Russia over. I thought NATO expansion was wrong and still do. I'm not all that sure what Biden cares about.

 

never heard of sharpie gate?

 

I've been watching invasiongate which includes Dreamers.

 

I think Biden is damned by people like you for whatever he does. If he does nothing, its because he's weak. If he does something its because he's weak.

 

I agree. A lot of times we should consider that he's nuts.

 

I meant what I said. I was asking the other poster if we should ignore the Ukrainian border.

 

Show us anything of consequence that Biden has done well- or done right for that matter. He's the botch-master; Elmer Fudd- in the oval office.

Would those things you think are good include-
Blowing the Afghanistan withdrawal?
Intentionally violating federal immigration laws and secretly transporting and dumping tens of thousand of illegals all over the nation, literally a continuing felony crime?

( I just posted a new story documenting it, http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-real-invasion-of-america.596413/)

My list would be very long. Show me the list of these things that are good for America that you think Biden has done.
Filling your head full of BS isn't one of them; don't count that.
I'll gladly give him credit where credit is due.

I'd have been happy to discover that Biden was actually competent and honorable- but instead, he proven to be worse than I could have imagined.
Anyone with a rational, functioning mind should see that clearly.

 

Pull up your pants, Spiritgide. Your partisanship is showing!

I see you do not like my answer to the OP about the Ukraine and Putin's prospective invasion. Now you need to 'broaden the scope of inquiry' to include every aspect of his presidency. Lets just stick to my response to your proposition.

Here it was. "The rhetoric about the Ukraine situation keeps heating up. Biden- is trying to pose as a power element here- flirting with the consequences of military intervention, after we have finally and disastrously just got out of Afghanistan.

At the same time his administration is taking a great deal of heat for failures, broken promises and moral corruption, that it's doing everything possible to divert public attention to other issues. I have serious concern that the posturing on the Ukraine-Russia issue is motivated by that desperation; literally an attempt at dodging the heat over what they have failed at by involving us is a larger problem. What do you think?"

My reply is simple. " I think Biden is damned by people like you for whatever he does. If he does nothing, its because he's weak. If he does something its because he's weak." How about you rebut that response, or see it as the gem of truth, it actually is. this is not about Biden, or the Ukraine, or Putin, or his domestic problems. Its about you finding another vulnerability to exploit. Your problem is that Biden has been very consistent about this issue and his stance. He was going to turn up the heat if Putin continued this course, and that is exactly what he has done.

I think you should look for inconsistencies not consistencies.

 

Biden is following Obama's policies with Russia. Forming alliance with all the old satellite countries and Russia felt threatened. I don't blame them but they have been preparing for this for a long time now. Upgraded weapons systems and a huge standing army. If Putin feels the time is right then it may be.

 

And I asked- WHAT has he done right or well? Should he not be condemned for repeatedly botching the most important job in the nation? For openly violating federal laws as if he was exempt?
I don't know which is worse- the corruption or the incompetence, but both are obvious. You seem to think objecting is to that is abuse?

Trump certainly was submitted to total condemnation and abuse by the left- regardless of the outcome. How is it unjust to expect Biden to at least respect the law, and keep his own promises?

Is it too much to ask that the man step up to the plate and give us an honest answer? It certainly seems so, as that has yet to happen over anything of consequence. NO president in my memory has so abused the public trust as Biden has. I don't respect anybody regardless of their politics that bends the rules this way. IF you can't see it- you have a vision problem, because it's damn sure obvious.
This isn't personal. It's not about his hairstyle. It's about doing the damn job, and keeping faith with the people and the duty of his office. That gets a failing grade on every issue.

Inconsistencies? Evasion of facts aren't inconsistent, they are regular. Refusal to answer questions- that's consistent too. Botching the job- consistent there too. The illegal, ongoing and undercover importation and distribution of illegal aliens is consistent too, and it too is a subject where questions are consistently avoided. So if we are going to talk "inconsistency" we have to go clear back to the promises made to get elected. Transparency. Truly public access. Or, how about this one?

"On day one, Biden will issue an ethics pledge, building and improving on the Obama-Biden Administration’s pledge, to ensure that every member of his administration focuses day-in and day-out on the best outcomes for the American people, and nothing else. The pledge will address not only the improper influence of lobbyists, but also any improper or inappropriate influence from personal, financial, and other interests – ensuring an extra layer of review and scrutiny whenever policy proposals or recommendations come from a conflicted source."

In a less glorified form, that is a promise to fulfill fiduciary duty. Absolutely nothing of the kind is taking place. That would seem to be inconsistent with the promises.

Are you consistent like that, simply refuse to acknowledge what you don't want to see? I think so.

 

There you go again. The subject of the OP and of your question was the policy behind the Ukraine and Russian 'crisis', and you were suggesting that Biden was doing something or going to do something different because of his unpopularity to distract us. That was the subject I actually thought you wanted to discuss. My answer is that his basic stance is actually consistent with the same views the Obama Administration was reflecting in its policies during 2014 which was to deter Putin from meddling in Ukrainian business, colluding to undermine specific elements in the Ukrainian government in favor of his own pets. Its more serious because an invasion this time is of a completely sovereign nation seeking membership in Nato. Its not a change in pattern because of his domestic problems, its a continuation of a pattern that preceding his presidency, using the same diplomatic tools and sanctions he has endorsed before.

lets' try this. Remember around June of 2020, there was all this skuttlebut about Trump starting a war to deflect on his domestic problems and win relection - the 'October surprise'. Those Dems were wrong. He did not fabricate an excuse to go to war. Donald may have been wildly unpredictable about a lot, but he never liked American Troops doing much of anything on foreign soil.

Well you are making the same mistake those Dems did. Your partisan panties are showing. The more you carry on about Biden's mistakes to justify this, the more you show us your skivvies.

 

Your problem is that you can't see anything wrong with Biden. You aren't looking at performance, but party dominance as some kind of shield from accountability I keep asking you-

WHAT HAS HE DONE RIGHT OR WELL?

Does that register with you at all, or is he exempt from that metric for some reason? You have nothing. You lose your own argument.

 

Speaking for myself I don't believe Biden is trying to distract from anything, I think he's just following what was and is bad policy. This is not the same situation Obama had to deal with in June of 3030.

 

I am not in this thread to discuss Joe Biden's general performance as President. The title of this thread is ' Will Biden threaten war to dodge the pressure of his failures. And that is the question I was expecting to talk about. The answer is No, he will not. He will pull the same levers that Presidents normally pull, in order to use diplomatic pressure, economic sanctions, and some military manuvers and military support for Ukraine and 'refuse to unequivocally rule any options out' just Presidents are supposed to do. They would be the same steps he would take if he was at 65% popularity. He has been 100% consistent on this since 2014 as Obama's VP. The most Biden will do, based on his popularity polling, is use the topic to change the subject away from unpopular domestic topics like Presidents have been doing for centuries.

Now stop with the Bait and Switch routine. If you wanted to launch a broadbased partisan attack Biden for his presidency that you wanted me to reply to, you should have written a different title, and written a different OP and tried to sucker me into that parlor game honestly.

 

No, but politicians do like to talk about foreign policy or travel more, to distract from national policy problems, and national policy to distract from foreign policy. they love to use one to look a little more 'Presidential' when the other ain't doing so well. I don't put that beyond anyone.

 

Question in the subject line has an assumed premise.

When posing a question to your opposing side, the proper sequence is as follows:

1. You reach a meeting of mind on the premise, first.
2. Then, and only then, do you ask the question.

Now, you can choose to refuse to do the proper thing, but only a fool (on my side) would attempt to answer the question
without clearing the premise.

But, if you has posed the question less disingenuously, the question could have been:

What do you think President Biden should do in Ukraine, regarding Putin's threat?

I think the answer to that question was published in two essays in Foreign Policy magazine, and the online version has a pay wall.

But should you be willing to subscribe or if you already do, the articles are entitled "The West Fell Into Putin’s Trap" and "Stop Panicking about Ukraine -- and Putin".

 

I gave a similar answer, but from a different angle.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-of-his-failure.596359/page-6#post-1073214414

 

Well done, sir!. Much better than I.

 

Yes.

 

Bingo.

And I thought that Trump was "going to get us into a war"??

Apparently that was just the Democrats projecting their own issues onto others ONCE AGAIN...