Disney’s debt is about to be Central Florida taxpayers’ problem

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is absolutely irrelevant.

    The fact is that it is a case of the government taking action against a private party based on their comments on pending legislation.

    That has NO PLACE in America. Being in power does not mean being allowed to assault citizens for exercising speech.
     
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    The issue is the power of this company with their special tax treatment using it's power to penalize the State of Florida and it's citizens for their pro-family opinions. Disney needs Florida far more than Florida needs Disney.
     
  3. WillReadmore

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    Bull.

    There are LOTS of large companies, important to state and local economies.

    That does NOT mean that the government can assault them when they comment on bills before th legislature.

    What the HECK makes you think that the government can assault private parties over their expressed opinions???
     
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    Assault them? Thats what it is now? lol

    Disney stuck their nose into something that isn't their business. They are an over priced theme park. Thats it.
    Disney thought they would take the tax break and spend their money overturning Florida laws? Who the hell are they?
    If they want to have the ability to push their wokeness onto 5 year olds then they can pay the same rate every other business is Florida pays.
    Their tax break was a gift of the state. Not a permanent provision.
    Now their stock is down over 35% selling at $120 a share and falling.
    Just another failure of the woke left.
     
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    Colorado is first to offer Disney a new home.

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    Florida’s authoritarian socialist attacks on the private sector are driving businesses away. In CO, we don’t meddle in affairs of companies like . Hey @Disney we’re ready for Mountain Disneyland

    https://twitter.com/jaredpolis/status/1516505564657774595?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1516505564657774595|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article260807512.html


    And Texas was second:

    On April 21, a Texas judge in Fort Bend, K.P. George, also extended an invitation to Disney to open a new Walt Disney World in the Lonestar Star State in an open letter to Disney CEO Bob Chapek. “From Timone & Pumba to Tinker Bell, Disney characters are as diverse as Fort Bend County families,” George said in his tweet that included a copy of his letter. George’s letter criticized Florida Gov. DeSantis and said the Disney company, its employees and diverse fans, “face authoritarian, anti-business, and culture war attacks from extremists in Florida.”


    And of course DeSantis threatened Twitter earlier this week too, although that is now a moot point after they accepted the offer, but is shows his eagerness to use government to attack private companies.
     
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  6. WillReadmore

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    Spoken like a true fascist.

    When is it that you decided that free speech is crap?
     
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    Not penalize.. just took away any benefits above what other business get..

    And it is perfectly fine to do that.. if your "free speech" is calling for people to be able to talk about sex to 5 year olds behind the parents backs then yes you should loose all of your benefits that you where getting over other companies. Why should they get special treatment?
     
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    Removing a substantial benefit as punishment for speaking, 1A, publicly about how bad the law is.
    So, it's restricting free speech, or I guess more accurately, punishing free speech by a gov't. The very entity that is not to go against 1A.
     
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    You already lost that argument about teachers talking about sex. There is no plan for teachers to talk about sex to K-3
     
  10. WillReadmore

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    The size of the assault on Disney is not the issue.

    The issue is that the FL gov levied penalties on Disney because of what they said about pending legislation.

    And, that is a clear violation of speech rights.
     
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    False

    But I am on record saying it won’t ever happen. No chance or Desantis won’t be a Governor long when folks see the bill.
     
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  12. WillReadmore

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    Do you believe that the gov of CA should be allowed to penalize fossil fuel companies operating in CA if the company makes public comment on some fuel bill?

    What the heck kind of America are YOU dreaming up?
     
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    If they promote teaching things about sexuality to K-3 grades and take control of children's lives on such matters over the wishes of the parent then any special tax favors for the drill site acre's should be voided.
     
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    Are all the other theme parks and entertainment areas not getting the same tax treatment being penalized?
     
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    What kind of question is that?

    Do the comments of one oil exec justify punishment of all oil companies?

    Obviously, not.

    More importantly, the comments of a company concerning a bill in congress are protected under our commitment to free speech. Using the power of the government against them for that speech is a travesty, if not a criminal offense.


    Republicans are big on their claims of "cancel culture".

    But, the minute it is to their advantage, they get being using illegal means to stifle speech!!

    And, this is not the only case. Republicans love Mark Meadows, regardless of his bald faced lies. They support Greene and her vile comments. They support Trump in his violation upon violation of our laws.

    Somehow, Republicans do not see any value in the law.
     
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    Sounds like you should seek professional help as you are obviously angry now that leftists lost control of Twitter, which limited their disinformation machine. Midterm won't be friendly to you. I want the prices for goods and services to remain higher or go even higher. I want to see the Democrats' ego to bruise badly on that day that they won't be able to hold their heads up when reporting to their sessions. I cannot wait to see Fox News lighting up cable news network and Truth Social lighting up the internet on Nov. 8th.
     
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    Actually it is not wrong. There are more than a few cases of covid vaccinations killing people and actually exacerbating covid when the vaccinated got sick anyway.
     
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    I already posted links to almost 500 lesson plans from teachers that talk about sexuality and sexual identity that was k-2.. you have done nothing to refute that..
     
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    A company getting special treatment.. and lossing that special treatment is not a penalty.. why was it ok that universal was penalized over Disney for not getting the same tax breaks?

    Local governments give breaks to try and entice business into their area to help their community.. and revoke those breaks if it doesn't work out.

    The CEO of Disney is not being criminally prosecuted for what he said, his free speech is still being protected. But what he did do is make it clear that his mission for the company is no longer compatible with what FL residents want.

    It's not working out with Disney so there is no need to maintain that same tax break, there is no longer the motivation to keep Disney in Florida after they made it clear that parents do not have the rights to handle how they deal with adult topics to there children..
    This is a company that is founded on entertainment for children so taking such a stand against parents was beyond stupid.

    Again lossing your tax break and putting you on the same field as other business is not a penalty.. again if anything the other business where the ones getting penalized compared to Disney..
     
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    Hahaha! Suddenly lefties are against a big corporation paying its fair share!
     
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    You should try this conspiracy theory again. But do it in the CONSPIRACY forum, where people who believe that asbestos and smoking is not bad for you, but that vaccines are a full of microbots to control the minds of people.

    This thread is about Disney. So if you are going to come up with a wild conspiracy theory here, you might want to try to make one up about how Goofy represents a "One-world government" or how Cinderella's story actually teaches children to become communists... something like that...
     
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    Democrats in 2008: CORPORATIONS DON'T PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE

    Democrats in 2022: TAXING CORPORATIONS HURTS TAXPAYERS
     
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    This exactly. I'm not sure this helps DeSantis nationally but he had the balls to do it regardless. Your key is that Disney sole purpose is to entertain kids and their very vocal radical stance in this instance, created a reaction that did not benefit them. The whole corporate woke culture needs to stop, there was a time when you would get fired for taking personal political stances public in a corporation, some where along the way these overpaid CEO's decided they were the company instead of the millions of stockholders they represent. Several are paying the price for that thought process. When I was in the corporate world I always had to sign contracts that specifically said do not take political stances on corporate property like phones and computers etc.
     
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    Juxtapose that number to the amount of people that died for not taking the vaccine, isn't even close.
     
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    You are welcome to demonstrate, in detail, how Florida is stuck with Disney debt. DeSantis disagrees with that assertion, BTW. Go!
     
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