Was The AR-15 Used In The Vietnam War?

M-16 is better tamed beast in select fire

 

So.. is a M-16 not an AR -15 with select fire capabilities?

 

yep and the Steyr Aug is even better

 

This Sig Sauer XM5 is the new US military rifle. It shoots a 6.8mm round, and apparently it handles full-auto firing very well

 

Scarborough is an idiot, no matter what he said. He's wrong either way, about guns and many other things. Why would anyone listen to him?

 

Wow, that's neat

Principals will have to call assemblies to do this one justice.

 

The AR15 that today's liberals want to ban was not used in Vietnam.
Another, similar, rifle, also called the AR15 was used in Vietnam, before it was standardized as the M16.
They are not the same rifle.

 

The M14 was select fire, thought many were converted to semi-only.
Even the semi-only M14s are considered machineguns under the NFA 1934, because once a machinegun, always a machinegun.

 

Which is -not- the same rifle the left is trying to ban.

 

Give me a M1-Garand just so I can hear the PING!

 

I already posted a link from the Military Times which stated 90% of the M14s were semi-automatic due to the instability of the M14 in auto mode.

 

Still resembles a cheap plastic Mattel toy.

 

The M16 was a select fire weapon. The M18 (yes there was one) was full auto only.a handful showed up in Northern Ireland in the hand of the IRA. they came standard with folding stocks (the hinge a weak, easily broken element), making them easy to hide under a coat. The M18 faded into obscurity pretty quickly.

 

The .30-06 was a great round and the M14 a good platform that is still used in some sniper variations. What probably helped kill the M14 in addition to the difficulty of young draftees for hand the full auto recoil, was the combined weight of the gun and ammo in the jungle environs of Viet Nam where combat distances were short and hitting enemy combatants concealed in the jungle were better addresses by potting down large volumes of fire so the military issued competition for weapons and ammo to meet the new combat conditions resulting ina new light weight cartridge derived from a civilian varmit cartridge and then a new lighter weight selective fire gun to soot it.
Ironically, the combat conditions of the Mid East found the M4 and the 5.56 round being criticized for the ability shoot the longer distances and defeat the Body armor that is becoming ubiquitous among enemy combatants so the military issued a new competition which has resulted in a new weapons chambered for another variant of a civilian cartridge that had been used in AR 15 variants a 6.8 and the Gredel (I have a Grendel upper), a resulting in the military refitting to go with the 6.8 cartridge. The new weapon has another major innovation, an amazing new optical sight that will effectively tun each soldier into a potential sniper.

 

Different lower, divergent bolt and different trigger group. If you mean can some components be swapped; yes, But a selective fire anything wil cost thousands mor and require tax stamp.

 

Lower? It that the action.. so like the most defining piece of a fire arm.. aren't they the only piece of a fire arm that has to be stamped?

 

Those M-16's left me with a marksman ship badge in military. I was shooting expert hunting deer with a 308 Remington before military. They were crap.

 

With a little filing an AR I was told could be made fully auto. But, that was all it could do after the rework. That was many years ago.

 

In the civilian market there were .22 cartridges like the Remington.223 and a .224 that were used for varmint hunting; hey we’re high velocity, flat shooting rounds. Civilian reloaded s discovered different bullet designs and barrel twists lent themselves to different shooting characteristics. One discover was low weight bullets with high ballistic coefficient tips fired from fast twist barrels had the potential to yaw on impact and creat large terminal wound cavities. Stoner and group searching for a new cartridge design ran tests and found using a 55gr bullet in a 20” barrel with a 1:11or1:12 twist accentuated the effect allowing the development of a light weight over all package with very controllable recoil that allowed soldiers to carry larger ammo load outs and when an unarmored enemy combatant was hit in jungle battle ranges, the wound could be devastating. The doctrine wasn’t to wound the enemy; it was put ‘em down often using large volume of fire. Even with the light .55 gr bullet, the military surplus ammo still was useful for varmit hunting.

 

Not to be picky, but the AK-47 was 39mm x 7.6mm. Also engagement distances were terrifyingly close: often 100 meters or less, making “recon by fire” effective - often directed by following the sergeants tracer rounds.

 

Not true.
All you need to do is learn how to do a ‘bumpfire’ technique that will work with any semi auto. Search you thumb for doing bumpfire without a bumpfire stock. The technique can work with any semiauto, even pistols and shotgun. It’s pretty awesome when I do it with my semiauto Remington 7400 with extended tube. 72..30 cal projectiles down range in a blink of the eye.

 

It was the US military that designated the AR15 as the M16. What type of weapon is the M18 and who designated it?

 

Interesting post, thanks.

 

Which supports what I said. Thank you.

 

that was the armalite AR 18-later the AR 180 ALSO Made by HOWA Japan and Sterling England. It was designed for countries that had less sophisticated machining centers-it was stamped sheet metal-easier to fabricate than the forged receiver of the AR 15/M16 Most AR 18s were select fire that I have seen or semi auto only. I owned an original costa mesa version-sold it to a collector who made me an offer I couldn't pass up