Japan bans same-sex marriage

I don’t think gay unions should be called SSM or gay marriage, they need something quick, simple, unique and dignified. Simply put, I don’t think the word yet exists. What do you think?

 

If she can do so then she is welcome to do so.

I see you are very much a typical American with romanticized idea of male/female relationships.

 

They do, its called marriage.

 

I think marriage is sufficient. And if someone asks you so where did you meet your wife then you say I'm not married to a woman that explanation is only necessary when it's necessary

Words to differentiate something that doesn't need to be differentiated it seems pointless to me.

 

if she can do what? Get lied to get tricked?

Well yeah that's better than backwards tribal stupidity that's why we are so hard to make modern society.

 

There are very sound cultural and societal reasons for being concerned about family structure.

History teaches lessons. Whenever the family structure breaks down beyond a sustainable level - the afflicted society declines or collapses.

America is experiencing that collapse now, and wherever the family is in most serious decline, that demographic is comparatively worse off than either 2-parent nuclear families from the same race and culture, or people from other demographics that also have more intact families.

The statistics are consistent across all races, cultures, income groups, etc.

The bottom line is, families are the bedrock of a stable society. When you discourage, disparage, or otherwise try to manipulate or redefine "the family", sexuality, morality, etc, that society will invariably suffer negative effects, and over time will weaken considerably in all quantifiable measures.

This is why the left, which is seeking to destroy and supplant western culture with their own version of paradise, is constantly attacking the basic family unit.

Divorce, abortion, illegitimate children, single parent homes, and yes - homosexuality... all of these are preferable to the left than having an intact family.

As Karl Marx stated very directly in the Communist Manifesto, we must "abolish the family".

And that is, at least in part, why a lot of people take issue with things that attack or undermine family, morals, culture, etc.

 

For white straight men.

For everyone else, they were up a creek without a paddle.

 

While you're not wrong, it was also misery for the gay man involved too.

 

Nonsense, absolute nonsense.

 

Tough. That society for the "straight white men" no doubt benefited people who were not in those categories.

 

I'm a gay person I'm in a marriage with a man and I support family structure. I think kids need parents that care about them and if they stay together that's even better. A mother and a father is ideal. I grew up with a mother and a father.

I don't think my marriage hurts that. I wouldn't have married a woman neither would my partner. So our not participating in it isn't because we married each other it's because we wouldn't marry women. I felt guilty dating then back when I was trying to be straight.

So why does my marriage degrade family values and how is that not offset by my support of them?

 

Not disagreeing, but the poster(s) I was responding too probably doesn't care a whole lot about the gay man.

 

Yeah the post war era was a formative time for the United States. But you can't go backwards. I think things are much better now. We have struggles and problems now that are different than those in the post war era. I'm not sure they are worse I think the issue is that many of them are new.

Government is not going to value marriage for us it can't we have to value it ourselves that's why in the 50s it was different it wasn't because the government was doing anything they're terrible at everything even in the 50s it's because we were doing something different.

I partnered I have looked to do adopting kids. We would probably go with 4 or 5 year old. The only reason is because straight people don't want to adopt them. Letting them get raped in the system is not better.

 

Feel however you wish about it. I simply think differently. There's nothing to get over.

 

In my experience much of this is too specifically show dislike to gay people.

It's rather sad that people think they need to bring other people down to feel better about themselves.

Another thing about it that's not necessarily sad just unfortunate, is I've agreed a lot with that person over many other things this one thing will probably make him never agree with me again.

 

Twaddle

 

I may not have understood your post then.

 

Why did you repeat this after I responded that I don't care about gay marriage?

Just trying to poke because your debate skills are lacking?

 

Bollocks!

And how long did the discussion take for the bastions of "morality" to figure out that it was ultimately going to take a crooked ***** grabber to make that point we must have somehow otherwise missed?

 

Tough.

I think you need to butt out of other people's business.

 

I was not discussing you, it was a question as you said lbtq was a mental illness, so I asked is homophobia a mental illness

 

And I already answered that.

 

I did not see you answer

 

I'm sure they will appreciate your company, don't forget to turn off the lights on your way out.

 

It just thought I'd be I thought I should tell you this I do have another word for my partner. We're both Futurama fans so we refer to each other as Fonfon ru. It just struck me I was at a party with a group of friends and introduced him as my Fonfon ru.