Which is it better to be, street smart or academically smart?

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    If you consider the diversity between levels of education, both from the classroom or in a lecture hall to the experience of someone who lives on or partially on the streets. Who would survive better in any given situation? Some who knows quantum physics living in a neighbourhood of thugs or a thug living in the same neighbourhood and vice versa.

    Who would survive better? My opinion would be the street smart guy? As street smart is needed in everyday situations, regardless of your geographical location or socioeconomic background. Not every day do you need to apply quantum physics, but you do street smart.
     
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    How about a combination of both?
     
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    Its better to have both.
     
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    Well, that'd be possible if everyone had the same level and opportunity of getting educated to be placed into that category.
     
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    Mmm, as stated above. All about the opportunity. At this stage, the majority are street smart. With the minority being academic. I've known people who are programming geniuses, yet they have no clue how to change a flat or prepare a surface for painting as an example.
     
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    While true, those that ARE academic centered should still learn street smarts, which everyone has access to regardless of opportunity.
     
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    everyone has that opportunity or they certainly should.
     
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    Yes, they should. However the nature of an academic or the nature of a street smart would find it difficult to mix things up, especially the street smart becoming an academic. Too much has been engrained into the psyche of the individual and the same would go for the academic. It would be difficult to 'blend in' to a gang life (example) for an academic, whereas the street smart could possibly mimic academic intellect in a situation.
     
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    Yes they should, but are they truly given the opportunity? When you look at society, anywhere that has a diversity of classes (statures of wealth and education), there always be the 'haves' and 'have nots'. The haves, as it suggests, has every opportunity on offer, whereas the have nots, have very limited opportunity.
     
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    In a perfect world, yes. But we aren't there, yet.
     
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    Everyone does have the same opportunity to get educated. Public schools produce full scholarship college students all the time. Even without a scholarship, as long the kid chooses a high paying field, their student loans will be easily repaid.
     
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    You never will be .. because not everyone is suited to education. Some are much better at business, or farming, or a trade.
     
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    This is total BS. Exactly the same opportunities exist for all, because our nations have universal public education. Getting through to the end of high school with a high mark, is all it takes to open every door - and getting to the end of high school is free. Any family can ensure their kids graduate high school in the top 10% (or higher). It doesn't take money - it takes effort, dedication, self-sacrifice, diligence, commitment, and consistency. ALL free.
     
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    Depends on what you are doing. I don't like your false equivalency here. A person who knows quantum physics is probably living in a place or neighborhood that has "street thugs" who are in $1000 Armani suits.

    You need to be academically smart if you want to do complex tax returns correctly and accurately. You want to be academically smart if you are designing a building or performing some similar tasks. Academically smart means you can discern what is fake and what is reality. You can discern between something that is based on a totally false premise and something that is realistic and logical.

    However, if you want to be street smart, then that tells me you are just following the shiny carrot, got your hand caught in the cookie jar and do not have the foresight to get out. You are just lucky that no one is checking up on the traps they have set and you are caught in it. So congrats on being the monkey whose hand is caught in the cookie jar full of sweets.
     
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    You don't get it. There are people who don't have opportunities in life, that is the issue at hand.
     
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    Explain exactly how people are prevented from attending a public school, and from doing extra homework to ensure they graduate with a solid mark? Explain how THE SYSTEM is preventing them from doing those things.
     
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    Effort and diligence are FREE, remember. So are public schools.
     
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    Black people face obstacles in terms of public school funding, etc.
     
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    That's crap. Black schools get MORE funding than their neighbours. Besides, even the worst funded schools still produce a handful of students who excel. What's stopping parents from ensuring their kid is one of them?
     
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    Although effort and diligence are free, that does not equate into the same opportunities for someone in public or private school.

    Take Allen High School in Texas. It is 6A, and has the third highest-paid sporting venue in the country. It has programs and opportunities that are more expansive than a 1a public school in Rural texas, such as Knippa or Dodd City. The reality is someone with all the talent in the world at a 1A school will never be accepted into a program like UT Austin or A&M or any other major leage college football school. He will be lucky to even go to college to play despite all of his talents.

    This is why sports is now a business, as well as academics. In sports, you can now transfer from a 1A school into a 5A school even though there is no legitimate reason to transfer. In the major cities, there are definitely more opportunities despite the political talk of CRT, diversity, etc. When it comes to academics, it's all about "check the boxes" in education in order to brag about the "graduation rate."
     
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    You can be both.

    The other day I was explaining Cherenkov Radiation to a guy and he said wow that's cool, where did you learn that. I told him to I ain't no snitch.
     
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    public school students must live in their district. if they are homeless, they do not live in any district. considering the millions of homeless, including families, do not qualify for any kind of food or medical assistance or even a library card without a local address. we have an immense problem of poverty right here in the usa.
     
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    Yes it does. There's a public school in NYC which produces some of your country's highest achievers. The academic standard of a school is set by the quality of the students, not the teaching staff or facilities. Put the worst students in the best school, and they'll still fail. And vice versa. There may be a marginal improvement or decline, but not enough to be considered causative.
     
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    WTF? Homeless now?

    How about we talk about the 99.9% who aren't homeless?
     
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    Neither would live very long alone in the woods.

    That is to say 'intelligence' is highly dependent on context and relative environment.
     
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