Harvard, UNC students on why they’re for and against affirmative action

whites are not 65% of the population. They are 57% of the population.

As for your wait, it is over https://educationdata.org/college-enrollment-statistics

 

That depends upon how they calculate the Hispanic numbers. It’s as low as 55 and as high as 65%. With that being said its a moot point because it doesn’t change the fact that whites are still underrepresented whichever number you choose.

Furthermore your assertion that whites are overrepresented in 4 year universities is not backed up by your source. Your source asserts 51% of college enrollees are white (making them underrepresented regardless of which number you choose). And OUT OF THAT 51%, 74% of those white students go to college.

Just like how blacks make up 12.5% of the total college enrollees (which means they’re OVERrepresented btw) and if that 12.5%, 71% of them are enrolled in a 4 year.

But that does NOT mean that whites are overrepresented in four year institutions as compared to their overall population rate.

 

Should say of that 51% 74% are enrolled at FOUR year colleges

 

PUBLIC universities should accept on nothing but merit. They absorb public monies, so they should be 100% neutral.

I don't know how it works in America, but here there aren't a lot of private universities - plus those that do exist are not very good and aren't well regarded. IOW when we discuss tertiary education, we mean public institutions.

 

I don't care what system they use...as long as its not based on skin color or gender. There is no argument that can be made which justifies discrimination based on either of those traits. If a college wants to cater towards tech... let em choose the best criteria that involves. If they want to cater towards agriculture/forestry... let them choose the best criteria that involves.

 

BINGO!

 

Well, under the CRT definition of racism it still exists. CRT labels ANY racial disparity that disfavors blacks to be racism.

 

Yes, not too "affirming".

OUT: DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. IN: UNIVERSITY AND EXCLUSION. Harvard Medical School ashamed of white male department heads.



'The Harvard University Medical School has removed portraits of former department chairs from a lecture hall because the individuals pictured are not sufficiently diverse.'

Gee, if only they had known about the "Oppression Matrix" they could have quickly moved from "Oppressor" to "Virtuous Victim".

 

What identity have these people (whom you’re talking about) have been left?
Their ancestors were torn away from their lands and culture and not allowed to practice their cultural religions or perform their societal rites but were made to conform to the white man’s god.

All that they have left hertitage-wise, is “being black”…and now you want them to not have that, too!?

Please enjoy being clueless.

 

Sorry, but ones skin color does not determine ones identity. Sorry that you think it does. As long as you think it does though, you will continue to believe in a racist ideology. You know what does determine identity though? Self. Self-identity is far more important. Self-identity is about the individual self. Self-identity determines how you treat others. Self-identity determines how you treat yourself. Self-identity determines your likes and dislikes. Self-identity determines your success, or lack thereof.

Identity based on skin color does none of that. Identity based on skin color makes it to where all you see is skin color. Make determinations based on skin color. Including self-worth and worth of others. It makes you compare your skin colored group with another skin colored group. There is no sense of individuality. It is destructive. It is regressive.

As for "whom you're talking about"? My post is about anyone and everyone that believes their skin color makes up their identity. Doesn't matter their skin color.

 

We all agree with the theoretical underpinnings of this valid political view, the problem is some see themselves getting punished more and view this as a competition between which side has suffered more!

We’re becoming simpering BABIES (rhetorically speaking).
Start to look where you* can change the world be being a little bit better to folks than yesterday, we can turn this around still, blind-eye optimist that I am!

*generic

 

If their heritage is to identify as a skin colour, then yes, I would encourage them to lose that, and to discover, create or join with a culture that is not race based, and thus racist. There are plenty of non-white people who do so. The ones who only care about race are the racist ones.

 

They tried assimilation in the 20th century, but that hasn’t worked out so good, you got anything else that you could have them try to not be acted in an adverse way by our governmental insitutitons?

 

It worked out fine for many. Tons of progress was made as we pushed the message that caring about race and basing identity on race is stupid.

The recent push against that message from so-called "anti-racists" (who are actually racist) hasn't helped and has only set us back and slowed this progress down.

A couple generations passing is what is needed (and it was working very well) but it will only work if the above resistance is marginalized as regressive rather than embraced as falsely progressive.

As for government institutions, the racist laws against these folks have been struck down. What remains is cultural, and government employees flow with the culture like everyone else.

 

AA is genuinely racist, and no longer has a place in America. It needs to go.

 

SHOCKER: Rutgers went on DEI spending spree before governor’s demand for financial transparency.

'Rutgers went on DEI spending spree before governor’s demand for financial transparency'

'As NJ Gov. Phil Murphy seeks to make state universities more accountable for their spending, it's come to light that Rutgers increased part of its DEI spending by 135% between FY22 and FY23. The legislative package proposed by Gov. Phil Murphy includes bills requiring public universities to submit an annual fiscal monitoring report and to make that report available on their websites.'



'In FY22, according to a budget document, Rutgers spent a total of $2,888,000 on expenses related to the Senior Vice President of University Equity and Inclusion. In FY23, increasing by 40.7 percent, that number jumped to $4,065,000.'

They spend public money like it's water being sprayed from a fire hose.

'Also in FY22, $668,000 went toward "salaries and wages" for the SVP. In FY23, that amount jumped to $1,571,000, a 135.3 percent increase.'

Accountability to the taxpayers is just what is needed here.