Was the January 6 riot/insurrection defensible?

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Do you condemn, unequivocally, the January 6 riot inside the Capitol?

  1. Yes, with no reservation whatsoever

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    72.9%
  2. No, because the rioters were heroically trying to stop the steal

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  3. No, because as misguided as they were, their response was understandable

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  4. Riot? What riot?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, after Republicans withdrew support for the independent, bipartisan Commission they had initially agreed was needed, the assault on the Capitol in an attempt to prevent Congress from fulfilling its Constitutional duty could not just be ignored.

    The United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol became absolutely necessary. All the Republican office holders and Trump regime insiders testifying under oath have served the nation well.


     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see absolutely no connection between the post you quoted and your response to it. What were you thinking?
     
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    I thought Sen. McConnell's, Graham's and other Republican condemnations were swift and unqualified, as was mine. McConnell even blamed Trump specifically, and he's the majority leader.

    One cannot fairly equate 1) resistance to a partisan and month's long, Hollywood produced (in effect) show trial to 2) support for the riot. I hope that isn't your intent.

    Be fair!
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    You are not respecting the Constitution if you are stealing elections, which appears to be something the Left is counting upon now. Early voting, bundling, mail in ballots, weeks to count votes. This is a disgrace that has to stop.
     
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    No one in the US has done more to try to steal an election than Trump has. Early voting isn't stealing. It's ****ing voting, which is obviously what you, like Trump, have a problem with. Dude, you are LITERALLY complaining about them counting all of the votes. You are calling it a disgrace to let people vote and to count those votes while people like Trump tried to actually reverse the ****ing election. It's hard to disrespect the Constitution more than the bull **** you are pulling right now.
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    Cuz, it's totally normal to need a week to count votes. Disgraceful BS.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yes. It normally takes several days to count all of the votes. That has never not been the case in our country. Ever. What's not normal is Trump's fake elector plot, which actually tried to overthrow our democracy, and which you are apparently fine with. I appreciate your willingness to show your true colors.
     
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    Yeah, takes time to generate those pallets of ballots. Outside of Bush Gore 2000, we pretty much knew who the next POTUS was before the next sunrise.
    I hear the French are clamping down in ways we should be doing as well. No early voting (Defacto uninformed voting as the election is not near complete). No mail ins except for military members or someone unable to leave the home, with a doctor's signature to not only that effect, but assurance of the voter's mental competence as well. In person, photo ID, paper ballot hand counted for the rest. I would make election day a holiday to ensure people have time to go vote.
     
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    To count. Count the ballots. Which is what you and Trump are terrified of.

    Because the count wasn't very close. The counts still went on. You'd know that if you had done more than five minutes of homework.

    More hatred of voting. I appreciate your confession.

    We already do hand recounts of paper ballots when things are close, and there is no "mental competence" test for voting. Again, that's just you hating on voting.

    Your first pro-democracy statement! Congrats. Here's some confetti.
     
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    No no no, I'm hating on people stealing elections. What is the point of voting if the deep state is just going to steal the election?
     
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    Or manufacture them. See who on the voter rolls is unaccounted for an then back date them. I hear they didn't have time to fold ballots that supposedly been mailed.

    I don't know what you are writing about.

    Gotcha. You appreciated uninformed voting.

    So even if some government paid nurse puts a comatose patient's name on a ballot and mails it in for the deep state, you're good with that. Oy.
     
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    If you were hating on people trying to steal elections, you'd be hating on Trump. Short of that, you don't give two shits about elections.
     
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    Writes someone that appears to know that they need to be stolen if Democrats are to destroy our economy, get us into WW3 and put all of our lives and liberty in danger while getting/keeping their jobs.
     
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    It was one of many riots during a time period of a few months. And effected Americans less then all the ones before it....and those previous riots that destroyed property, businesses and terrified Americans in there homes and cities across USA are not mentioned ever.

    The left and media lie and convert the DC riot into something it never was....it was never an insurrection and Trump was never responsible.

    And yes...all riots should condemned. They are a dangerous mob no matter what way they vote.
     
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    True. A losing candidate must accept the will of the People.

    After all legal options to contest the certified results - the electoral votes of all 50 states - after recounts, audits, dozens of frivolous court challenges have failed to change that result goon attacks on Congress, fake elector schemes, and all other illegal attempts to steal the election are impermissible.

    After two years of being able to contrive no credible evidence of a stolen election and an inability to name even one suspect in the imaginary caper, when
    the Loser's own Attorney General, among many other prominent Republicans, admits that the Loser's ludicrous lie that he had won in a "Landslide!" is

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    it is clearly time to summon a modicum of patriotism, respect for democracy, and stop sniveling.

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    (The Loser citing his savvy genius notwithstanding,
    Hillary Clinton had immediately and graciously congratulated Trump in 2016.)​
     
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    Amazing the things you do not perceive when you cover your eyes and ears.
    And 50 US Security agents told us Hunter's laptop looks like Russian Disinformation.
    Uh huh.
     
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    Your feeble attempt at diversion only underscores the total lack of credible evidence for the Loser's fake claim of a stolen "Landslide!"

    It has nothing to do with the Loser's goons attacking Congress on January 6, 2021.
     
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    The only person who tried to steal it was Trump, and he failed. The only people around here okay with stealing elections are Trump supporters.
     
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    The issue is, the election appears to have been stolen and the deep state needed a distraction, so they appear to have had assets, such as, apparently, Ray Epps, embedded in the crowd to incite them to go over board. To those that were not invited to enter the capitol, I will write they appear to have violated the law and should face as much punishment as those that attacked Trump's White House and set fire to a church across the street.

    I do bring up the laptop as, I'm writing, the same people that covered that up, who used the FBI to stifle the story, would happily lie to you about stealing the election.
     
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    The issue is that some people are desperate, willingly self-deluded, and daft enough to buy this bull **** and do so eagerly. They can't win, so they develop elaborate victim fantasies centered on the most braindead of conspiracy theories.
     
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    Or... OR!!!.... the guy that hid in his basement and couldn't attract flies to poo and went on to lose 17/18 bell weather counties and more, stole the election and the same people that suppressed the laptop story will lie to obfuscate the likelihood that the election was stolen.

    Regardless, he is POTUS now. May he be impeached.

    When the Republicans retake the house, they should re-stage the 1/6 protests but this time, resist the instigators from the deep state. Don't go over board, but let your voices be heard and get these nation destroyers impeached.
     
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    I think you mistake your own beliefs for those of most people.
     
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    It's simply a perspective to place that in.

    A relatively mild political riot would be more alarming if not for the literally hundreds of comparatively monstrous ones that preceded it.

    Some of which were not just branded an insurrection by their opportunistic political detractors and headline seeking click baiters, but were openly billed as such by their participants.


    Keeping things in perspective is important.
     
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    I agree, but one would have to assume they are as small in number as those desperate, willingly self deluded and daft enough to believe this was a Trump conspiracy to take over the country by force.
     
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    The apologists for the unprecedented attack by Trump goons on the Capitol to prevent Congress fulfilling its Constitutional duty to formally recognize the certified democratic election results of fifty states and DC are unable to contrive any equivalency to serve as a diversion.

    No other such politically-partisan violence has occurred anywhere in the nation. The Trump goons' ended America's proud tradition of peaceful transfers of power (1789-2021)

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