Ok, should check boxes be removed from applications? I say yes. The info provided by check boxes does nothing to inform an employer, bank, college, etc about the applicant's qualifications, education, experience or worthiness of the applicant getting what's being applied for. All check boxes do is provide a path for discrimination. Let's hear it.
When hiring it's most important to do an interview, check background including driver's license, do a credit check, give a physical, and check with previous employer. That is if you want the best. Otherwise just go by skin color.
As soon as I had to check "White male" on a job application, I knew that I was headed to the back of the bus.
Things that qualify a person for a job is normal. I'm talking about things like check boxes for gender and race which have nothing to do with a person's ability to do a job or study at college. Do you recall when Obama said resumes shouldn't have names on them because ethnic names might be targets for discrimination? Serious question: When you need a service, do you ask the person doing the service to check a box for race and gender before buying that service, or do you ask about qualifications and the like?
I do not. I also always leave demographics boxes blank when filling out paper forms, and i lie when it's electronic forms that don't allow me to skip them. The boxes existing doesn't bother me though.
The only purpose a check box serves is to discriminate. You'd think libs would have been calling for their removal a long time ago.
Funny story -- my friend went to see an eye doctor for the first time. He didn't answer the question whether he was single, married, divorced, or widowed. He said the receptionist came out to a full waiting room and told him he failed to answer that question. He replied, "Lady, I'm just here to have my eyes checked".
Woke Stratego here. Instead of a checkbox for male or female the applicant ought to he able to shade the box to a shade that represent their identity.
previous employers don't say much due to legal liabilities, if they prevent you from getting a job by what they say, they could be sued if they can't back it up in court and not worth the trouble
True. You can give a good report on a past employee but it not wise to give a bad report. I was once called from another company checking on their applicant, a person that once worked for me and was nothing but trouble. So all I said was, "I have nothing to say about this person". They thanked me.
I think you are correct. I haven't seen an application since I was a teenager but there is no need for that information anymore. Maybe someone from an older generation can tell us why it was ever necessary. TBH I am not certain but I wouldn't be surprised if it is against HR policy to ask those question for a job application. We rely on resumes, testing, referals and social media information if the candidate supplies it. Even asking a candidate age is out of bounds.
Thing is, demographic information "can't" be used in a hiring decision. If a company is acting ethically, the hiring manager does not have access to those pages/questions. Pretty sure legally you can leave that section blank. It "should" have no bearing on the decision. I use quotes because people always find a way to hate. I preferer to answer the questions myself, if it is used against me to disqualify me, I wasn't going to last long there anyway.
If you are talking about demographics, then can't you just opt out of those? I haven't had an application where those were mandatory.
From just a quick internet search... I found that things like gender and race are asked on a job application because "companies want to ensure they aren’t discriminating against protected classes of employees, not to make it easier to do so. The answers are only meant for reporting and analysis purposes. Employers gather this demographic information in the aggregate to ensure they’re maintaining non-discriminatory and legal hiring practices; to measure the effectiveness of their hiring practices, ensuring one group isn’t being eliminated at a higher rate; and send the information to the government. Companies may have to send demographic info to the feds for two reasons: EEOC compliance. Usually, if a company has 100 or more employees, it must submit a report to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) every year. The report contains tons of info reported in the aggregate, but they aren’t reporting about specific individuals. OFCCP compliance. Companies that have government contracts have to adhere to Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) requirements. OFCCP is set up to protect against employment discrimination due to race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, and other protected classes. So, employers have to send in tons of records, including ones on job applicants, and the whole purpose is to identify and fix any discrimination discovered."
If our goal is to get rid of discrimination, why are we tracking it? If we’re trying to get rid of racism in hiring, why are we bringing up the fact that you are different ? if you’re hiring a civil or structural engineer, all you need to know is can this person build a bridge that won’t fall down.
The left wants color based hiring, not MERIT based hiring. If you remove the checkboxes the left will be mad
