NATO becomes a coalition of the willing

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  1. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if this one is actually a Russian site or not. They certainly regurgitrate Russian propaganda, but the stuff I have read on there prior to Ukraine was a combination of straight out conspiracy crap and left wing 'anti-imperialist'/anti-western crap.

    One of the fascinating aspects of the Ukraine was is to watch how elements of left and right have essentially converged in an unreality zone fuelled by Russian propaganda. You end up with jew-hating Nazis (if you are unfamiliar with the OP's view I suggest some research - enlightening) & right wingers getting into bed with supposedly 'anti-imperialist' lefties to support the imperialist invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Its like some strange science experiment gone wrong.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    From Wikipedia:

    The Voltaire Network (French: Réseau Voltaire) is an international non-profit advocacy and alternative media organisation founded and lead by French journalist Thierry Meyssan. It specialices in international relations and has become known for advocating conspiracy theories, notably relating to the 9/11 terrorist attacks and those in support of the Syrian (Bashar al-Assad) and Iranian governments.[1]

    The organisation was initially founded in 1994 as a left-wing think tank in support of free speech and secularism in France. It split in 2003 and was disbanded in 2007. It was re-founded as the International Voltaire Network (Réseau Voltaire International) in Lebanon by Thierry after he had become known for his 9/11 conspiracy theory book, 9/11: The Big Lie.

    The Voltaire Network currently publishes a free website available in 17 languages (Arabic, English, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Turkish, and others) and two online databases and syndicates news from various agencies.

    Origins
    The Voltaire Network was founded in the context of a campaign in favour of freedom of speech, which the founders thought was put into jeopardy by new laws enshrined in the French penal code. After the campaign the association lived on, specialising in the study of far-right movements and religions. It was vocal notably in preventing the French government from funding the religious part of the Pope's visit to France, and in initiating an investigation of the French Parliament regarding the French far-right militia group Department of Protection-Security. Since 1999, the Réseau Voltaire has dealt with international issues, including daily news about the bombings of Serbia by NATO.​

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire_Network

    Sites like this are basically a tool that Russia's online bots and trolls can use to spread anti-US misinformation online, whether they are publishing crap from the Kremlin or crap written by jelly-brains who might as well be working for the Kremlin. There are many such sites; another example:

    CounterPunch is a left-wing[1][2] online magazine. Content includes a free section published five days a week as well as a subscriber-only area called CounterPunch+, where original articles are published weekly.[3] CounterPunch is based in the United States and covers politics in a manner its editors describe as "muckraking with a radical attitude".[4]

    History
    CounterPunch began as a newsletter, established in 1994 by the Washington, D.C.-based investigative reporter Ken Silverstein.[5] He was soon joined by Alexander Cockburn and then Jeffrey St. Clair, who became the publication's editors in 1996 when Silverstein left.[6][7] In 2007, Cockburn and St. Clair wrote that in founding CounterPunch they had "wanted it to be the best muckraking newsletter in the country", and cited as inspiration such pamphleteers as Edward Abbey, Peter Maurin, and Ammon Hennacy, as well as the socialist/populist newspaper Appeal to Reason (1895–1922).[8] When Alexander Cockburn died in 2012 at the age of 71, environmental journalist Joshua Frank became managing editor and Jeffrey St. Clair became editor-in-chief of CounterPunch.[9][10]

    During the 2016 presidential election, CounterPunch published a piece attributed to Alice Donovan,[11] who purported to be a freelance writer but US intelligence officials alleged to be a pseudonymous employee of the Russian government.[12] Donovan was tracked by the FBI for nine months, as a suspected fictitious persona created by the GRU.[12][13] In late November 2017, after CounterPunch had published several more pieces by Donovan, The Washington Post contacted Jeffrey St. Clair about her. The co-editor said that Donovan's pitches did not stand out among the pitches that CounterPunch received daily[12] and began making inquiries. He asked Donovan to substantiate her identity by sending a photo of her driving license but she did not.[12] On the same day The Washington Post article about Donovan was published, St. Clair and Frank published a piece stating that CounterPunch only ran one article by Alice Donovan during the 2016 election, which was on cyber-breaches of medical databases. Donovan was also exposed by the newsletter as a serial plagiarizer.[11] CounterPunch removed all of the articles from their site.[14] In a January 2018 follow-up article, St. Clair and Frank exposed a network of alleged trolls that operated a site called Inside Syria Media Center, promoting a pro-Bashar al-Assad and pro-Russian view of the Syrian Civil War. St. Clair and Frank speculated that the website was connected to the same network of trolls as Alice Donovan, which was later confirmed by the Atlantic Council and other researchers.[13][14][15]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CounterPunch
     
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    bigfella Well-Known Member

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    No disagreement there.

    CounterPunch is a vile publication. It is only a decade ago they were publishing pro-Pol Pot content.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/18/pol-pot-revisited/

    Anyone who treats them or anything like tham as a credible source should be assumed to be a fool or a liar. You can't push this stuff & be considered credible. The same goes for a lot of right wing publications that get quoted on this forum much more regularly, but today's subject is awful left wing publications.
     
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    Finland’s Parliament gives final approval for NATO bid!
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    Mit gefangen, mit gehangen!
     

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