Mother slams 'despicable' Biden for laughing about her sons' fentanyl deaths

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  1. robini123

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    Are not then all drug overdoses the fault of failed government policies over the course of numerous Democrat and Republican administrations? Biden laughing at the question was certainly ill advised, but to place the blame squarely upon Biden seems like partisanship to me. Both parties have played their part in the failures of drug enforcement policy. I am angry at both parties for their continued impotence at mitigating drug deaths.
     
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    "Michigan mother and conservative activist Rebecca Kiessling testified to the House Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday about how her sons Caleb, 20, and Kyler, 18, had died on July 29, 2020, as a result of fentanyl poisoning from taking pills Kiessling said they had mistakenly believed were safer pain pills."

    fentanyl deaths are caused by the republican's war on drugs, people can't buy known goods, so they buy on the black market and get tainted goods as they have no way to know what they are actually buying

    during alcohol prohibition, people used to buy bad alcohol too

    had her sons been able to buy these pain pills legally like Alcohol, they would be alive today
     
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  3. FreshAir

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    yep, but sometimes when a nutcase like MTG accuses you of something so absurd, sometimes all you can do is laugh at her accusations

    no different from laughing about Jewish space lasers was not insensitive to the victims of the fires - what was despicable was MTG's comments
     
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    He should but he won't because in his eyes, he's never wrong. Sad, that his paid mouthpieces, especially KJP, continue to enable his cruelty to others.

    Seriously, what kind of monster says something like this? Where is his empathy?

    "Well, the interesting thing is that fentanyl they took came during the last administration," he said before laughing."
     
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    back then it was Trump, he was President
     
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    Wait. The kids died in 2020 while Trump was still in office and Biden was a private citizen.
    Screw Marge and her supporters for turning this into a political thing, bunch of dick heads.
     
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    So under Biden's presidency things have gotten worse. I imagine your response might be something along the line that Biden inherited a crappy situation that anyone would have trouble fixing. I would reply that it doesn't help if he does nothing to fix it.
     
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    Yes you are right but the insensitivity extended to the mother that lost her two boys as if it is an unserious, laughing matter. Couple that with the fact this is the only time he has mentioned fentanyl and blamed that on others. MTG is right. He is responsible for doing nothing about 100,000 American deaths.
     
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    her kids made an even worse decision.
     
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    Fentanyl is laced into other drugs. Very few people are going to a dealer because they want fentanyl. The deaths tend to be from people thinking they were taking a pill of something else or of a less potent dose.

    Additionally, Border Patrol leadership has testified under oath that the massive increase in migrants impacts their ability to catch fentanyl coming across the border. It's an obvious resource issue. They also detailed that when several hundred migrants show up at the border escorted by cartel coyotes it takes resources from the ports of entry and the border itself to apprehend and transport them leaving them with minimal resources to inspect for drugs.
     
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    EXACTLY...
    Absolutely LUDICROUS..
     
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    The army needs to be mobilized to go destroy the cartels in Mexico. The NSA and DEA need to get together and destroy the domestic cartels. Drug possession mandatory 6 months in jail anywhere in the country. This is a rather soft approach, yet the leftists would say it is fascistic. Lol.

    Bottom line. If the drug problem isn't addressed immediately the little future this place does have will be gone. It's already a nightmare.
     
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    MTG was confused about the timing. But, Trump at least cared about enforcing the border and made it a top priority to secure it. The Biden administration has historically made it a top priority to roll back effective security measures despite the negative side effects. There are a lot of things someone can say to poke fun MTG, and Biden could have corrected her on this point without laughing. But, laughing about her being wrong about the deaths of someone's kids is a pretty shitty thing to do. The mother has to watch the President laughing while talking about this with a history of largely ignoring the problem as the problem that killed her kids continues to spiral out of control. Biden thought he was owning MTG, but he owned himself.
     
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    Do we think these people who take drugs don't understand the risks involved by this point. Fentanyl cocaine heroine doesn't matter until the root cause is addressed we'll just continue to play musical chairs of what the drug of choice is today. Why are people feeling hopeless and how do we as a society change that. Those are the real questions that everyone is afraid to ask
     
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    The problem with fentanyl is that it is used to cut other drugs. You go to a dealer and buy the same pill you've been buying for years, but this one time it has a lethal dose of fentanyl in it and not the drug you thought you were taking. It's obviously a risk and people know it is a risk, but addictions are difficult things to overcome.
     
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    The addiction is the main problem. Why are so many people feeling hopeless enough to turn to drugs that they know or want to severely shorten their life.. what's behind the feeling and what can we do to stop the feeling. Pretending it's just a drug problem and not a mental health problem surely doesn't help those affects by this problem
     
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    [​IMG] Oh, they have tried but those that die are not listening.
     
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    Trump should apologize for allowing that to happen under his watch

    and MTG should apologize for blaming Biden for something that happened under Trump
     
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    Wow! Not only did you not click on my link but you didn’t read the citation I posted
     
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    Why don’t more people know about Narcan?
    NARCAN® is Available at the Pharmacy Counter
    https://www.narcan.com/#how-to-get-narcan
     

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    exactly, they did not know what they were buying because of the war on drugs, they were just trying to relieve their pain, not get high on Fentanyl

    the war on drugs killed them
     
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    the reality is, when they cracked down on cocaine, we got meth

    then they crack down on pain pills we got pills laced with Fentanyl

    the war on drugs is a failure
     
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    Like that would matter.
     
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    Yes it would - unlike others I do look at citations - but be warned I also evaluate them based on evidence of factual reporting
     
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    Trouble is opioids are addictive and we have known that for bloody Millenia.

    https://n.neurology.org/content/92/15_Supplement/P4.9-055

    About 8 Millenia to be exact. The great golden idol in this is finding a drug treatment for addiction
     
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