Archrivals Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to end years of hostilities in deal mediated by China

This should be of concern for the Biden administration. While China is proving to be peacemakers, the US is losing strategic allies. Saudi Arabia is giving Washington the middle finger. When will the new alliances label the US as a terrorist state?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/10/middleeast/saudi-iran-resume-ties-intl/index.html

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Saudi Arabia and Iran announced on Friday that they had agreed to reestablish diplomatic ties after seven years of hostility, in a deal between the regional archrivalsthat could have wide-ranging implications for the Middle East.

Riyadh and Tehran plan to reopen their embassies within two months in an agreement mediated by China, Saudi Arabia and Iran said in a joint statement after talks in Beijing on Friday.

They also plan to reimplement a security pact signed 22 years ago under which both parties agreed to cooperate on terrorism, drug-smuggling and money-laundering, as well as reviving a trade and technology deal from 1998.

 

The unipolar world is coming to an end. All things must pass.

I wish the uniparty world in DC could come to an end.

 

The difference in Foreign between China and US is that China use diplomacy to cement ties with all countries especially seen in the middle East and Africa. The US create divisions in The Middle East and Africa

 

You clearly don't know very much about Asia. China is busy consolidating one of the largest thefts of terrotory in human history & most of its neighbours are flocking to the US for security. Chinese 'diplomacy' in this context is to demand other nations accept the theft. The Philippines just agreed to four new US bases. When Vietnam is buying US equipment, recieving US training & participating in US led military exercises you know Chinese 'diplomacy' is not working very well.

As for the idea that China is not 'creating divisions' elsewhere, I doubt the millions killed by the Chinese backed regime in Sudan would agree. Similarly China was happy enough to support Ethiopia as hundreds of thousands died in Tigray. The US repeatedly tried to get both sides to stop the fighting and was part of the process that eventually ended the war.

China is pursuing its interests, just like everyone else. Believing otherwise is a fantasy.

 

Peace is great, but these two have a fundamental religious hatred for each other. They've been here before...I doubt this time that it sticks.

 

nah china just dont get involve with other countries civil war etc. sudan issues is sudan issue, its gonna happen whether china involve or not. china is dealing with both N and S sudan. for china its all about business, they wont involve in other countries internal conflict. similar ethiopia event will happen either way with or without china. They dont see themself as world police but business man They deal with previous corrupt afahan government, now they are dealing with taliban.
as for vietnam etc, they also buy weapon from russian, even china sold some there weapon before, it doesn't mean they are in US camp. most ASEAN are neutral, they dont want to get caught between two super power, play both side is best for them to gain $$$ and support.

 

There is lots to learn and react with how China deals with foreign policy. But let's not be suckin China dick. They are going full on authoritarian and all control is filtering to winnie the poo.

Oh and have I mentioned how incredibly xenophobic they are? Was talking to a Russian online and he was bitching as to how certain parts of Russia are now predominantly Chinese with Chinese business, language and signs. And how Chinese businesses don't hire white people.

Good luck with that.

 

I didn't say China caused anything, I said they supported governments doing 'divisive' things. It was a counter to the childish narrative in the post I responded to.

I also didn't say Vietnam was in the 'US camp', I was pointing out how remarkable it is that a nation with the history Vietnam has is co-operating with the US. If Chna was any good at 'diplomacy' this would not be happening.

 

This won’t last. And if anything it shows how weak Saudi is. It also is a black eye to Biden, I won’t argue that. But if you have read the history of Iran like I have you would know that caving in to Iran is a sign of submission. Iran has been the bully in the Middle East for decades. They also are militarily dominate. To give a black eye to America like that won’t be taken lightly by either republicans or democrats. This is something we won’t forget. I promise that

 

This probably would have happened much sooner if Gump hadn't done so much to worsen relations between us and Iran. No way Iran would allow us to mediate after we, under his grossly incompetent "leadership," tore up an agreement Iran wasn't violating and illegally assassinated one of their generals.

 

there are plenty chinese companies hire foreigners if they have the skillset and hardworking, no business gonna hire some lazy bump drinking vodka all day. also there is language barrier. business hire base on skillset and how hard they work. chinese is pretty adapt to new environment, and work hard, they immigrate all over the world for better job/business opportunity. its dumb to point them as xenophobic base on some business didn't hire russians. make you sounds like stereotype.

as far as china govt, not much different than the like of vietnam/saudi arabia, ill bet saudi have much tighter control over ppl lives especially woman than china. yet we still call saudi as an ally cause the oil

 

Shia kill Sunni, Sunni kill Shias.
It will not last.

 

Why should this be "of concern to the Biden Administration?" If the result is peace and stability, that is beneficial, regardless of who is the deal maker. I don't know that this is the signal we have lost Saudi Arabia as a strategic ally. Most of their military equipment is American, so they will continue to be reliant on us for replacement parts, if nothing else. It is just that Saudi Arabia, esp. under MBS, is gonna do what it wants to do. It's idea of an ally, much the same as China's, is someone who doesn't criticize it. Saudi Arabia has already given us the "middle finger," as you call it, by not cooperating with Biden's requests that they produce more oil-- though, of course, they were under no obligation to do that-- and, more so, by killing U S. resident and Washington Post reporter Jamal Kashoggi (while Trump was in office).

But this tension has been coming. We are no longer reliant on Saudi oil. We are, in fact, part of the consortium if countries, which wants to phase out the use of Saudi Arbia's greatest financial asset. How are they going to replace that? So, in a way, it's really not surprising that they should be getting more chummy with the other countries which also like to make their own rules, outside of the world order.

Same question to you: how is Saudi Arabia's re-establishing relations w/ Iran, giving Biden and the U.S., "a black eye?" (see explanation, above).

 

Factually speaking they haven't agreed to peace. They just agreed to open embassies.

 

Iran's refusal to enter into a nuclear agreement. Saudi Arabia prince dissing Biden for good reason. Russia's ties to Iran and Saudi Arabia getting stronger. And then we have China negotiating peace agreements. What is taking place is a new alliance against the US. Good for peace you say? Since when is a strong enemy good for the US's peace? And when the US dollar is no longer king? Let's see how much peace this will bring for the US.

 

Iran has refused Biden's offer to reestablish the nuclear agreement. But what does all that have to do with Saudi Arabia renewing their relationship with Iran? Is that because Biden dissed the Prince and then showed up in SA with his tail between his legs begging for more oil?

 

It’s a black eye because somehow China is more influential than us under Biden’s lead.

 

The Sunnis and the Shiites do live amongst each other. They have more to gain working together than separately. I believe Biden has pushed this relationship just like he is pushing China closer to Russia which is for another thread.

 

Biden is too busy ramping up WWIII with Russia. Instead of trying to make peace deals he is making war deals.... pretty bad when communist China is trying to strive for world peace while the leader of the free world is fueling a fire..

 

We're the democracy right? Aren't we suppose to be the peace makers? We use war to make peace. How has that worked out?

 

That is exactly what the world is seeing. A country that is constantly at war with the world.

 

Russia started war against their own “peace agreement” that we were also apart of. We are honoring our side

 

Please show me where Joe Biden has been aggressively pursuing peace talks..

 

Spy nests.

 

The largest thefts of territory? Even bigger than what the UK did? lol


It just sounds like China's way of diplomacy works better. It's not like their military are all over the world for the sake to attack around like the US is.