As Biden visits Ukraine, China’s top diplomat goes to Russia

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  1. GlobalCitizen

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    If one holds principles like: protection of individual human rights is vital to human progress, or communist regimes always result in all national power vested into one corrupt tyrant, who becomes dangerous to all humanity, then it is relevant.

    But I can see how it would seem silly if one never evolved principles to guide them.
     
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    You mean, you would hand over Taiwan to China if it only wasn't so corrupt / communistic. And I can sympathize that to a certain point, but I just choose the path that the borders are the borders regardless of who governs it.

    And as for corrupt tyrants. It's just labelled lobbying in the US. And there are just 2 flavors to pick basically, who are being lobbied by the same groups. That's really not that far off of just having 1.
     
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    Since just about every person in my government lied about the origins of Covid, I consider them corrupt as well. But constitutional republics don't always result in such level of corruption, and the power wielded isn't focused into one person as it is in communism. Communism is more dangerous to us all, and Covid should have proved that to all.
     
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    I would develop a plan to evacuate all of the advanced chip foundries before destroying them in the event of a CCP invasion. I would let them see me practicing this plan. So the CCP knows, that even if they meet zero other resistance, they don't get the foundries. They'll have to coerce those with know how for a couple of decades in order to build new ones.
     
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    You're talking about the same Republicans who claimed the election got stolen.
    Republicans who lied about the WMD's in Iraq for the sake to start a war and massacre around.

    We haven't seen communists this dangerous.
     
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    It is impossible to evacuate who advanced factories in the event of communist invasion of Taiwan. Taiwan knows this which is why they have set plans to destroy all of those advanced chip fab facilities in the event of a communist invasion. Honestly, it is not like the communists could run those fabs even if captured intact because communist China can't even run its own low tech fabs without western help.

    The sanctions first Trump and now Biden have put on high tech in communist China means their whole high tech environment has died. The communists themselves have admitted the CCP has lost 25 years of advancement and the best they can manage is mid 1990's level tech in semiconductors.
     
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    Good Ole Sunny revealed how they cheated: "I forgot my son's ballot...."

    81M votes, but certainly a few million were cast by people who never intended to vote, but had ballots filled out and delivered by family members.
     
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    How would it be impossible to evacuate? I would be allowing the CCP to see me drill the evacuation once a week.
     
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    It takes at least a year to disassemble a factory and slowly move it some where else. BASF is doing that now moving chemical factories from Germany to Louisiana. The reality is in an invasion of Taiwan it would not be possible to evacuate a factory so it would simply be blown up.
     
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    sure sure... take it to court, champ.
    Oh snap, the orange stain did and he lost them.
     
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    Nah, no court. I'm not going to tell the Republicans to do the same as Democrats next election, because that might actually be illegal to say that. I'm just saying, be super aware of what the Democrats just did to you.
     
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    What the dems supposedly have done, has been thrown out in a court of law.
    All you got going are unfounded conspiracy theories.
     
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    Peter Zeihan Returns: China, Ukraine, and What Comes Next - Danger Close w/ Jack Carr


    Very interesting and thought-provoking, as ever for Peter.
     
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    It was so common a practice that Sunny Hoskins admitted to dropping off her son's ballot on the air. I've lived on the streets for years. No way 80% of these urban centers like Philly registered, and then voted. It's so unbelievable that it's insulting.
     
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    Did Sunny actually do that?
    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-sunny-hostin-voter-fraud-idUSL1N32D1VF


    "All you got going are unfounded conspiracy theories."... and indeed you do.
     
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    Unfounded for now. But I feel it's my duty to automatically assume that if you are a person that acted as a defense attorney for 3 years for whatever people and entities poisoned the world with Covid (and not just poisoned once, but it's becoming more and more evident that it will be a recurring poisoning for the rest of our, and all of our descendants' lives), then you will lie and cheat about anything.

    Everyone should question every claim these people make, including "free and fair" and "unprovoked invasion".
     
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    You can start by first checking out if your own claims are true, before ranting utter nonsense you picked up from some conspiracy nutcase about voter fraud.

    Are you aware by the way that google keeps tabs on your search history? You undoubtingly picked up that garbage on some site. And so now google is more prone to lead you to such nonsense again. It's a slippery slope of going down the drain of becoming a conspiracy theorists.

    Because at some point down the line, you should question that too... am I one? Am I giving red flags to people around me that I am one? It comes with the territory of questioning everything, which includes the things that doesn't support your agenda.
     
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    Some of us have lived on the streets and in shelters in urban centers. It's not a conspiracy theory to consider anyone claiming 80%+ of those people I lived among registered and voted, as mistaken, or liars.

    So is it nonsense to think I'm going to periodically be sickened by this virus for the rest of my life?

    Or is it nonsense that it was created in a lab?

    Or is it nonsense that as soon as I mention that fact in coffee shops, etc. for 3 years now, I hear a cacophony of voices opposing me that would be indistinguishable from a team of defense lawyers for the CCP opposing me?

    The conspiracy theory I've been proposing on here for 3 years is not that Covid came from a lab. That's obvious. The conspiracy theory is that all of these politicians, government officials, and media knew the whole time that the virus circulating amongst us was from a Chinese bioweapons lab.

    Of course the people who displayed such hubris and dishonesty fail to understand why people don't believe them on "unprovoked invasion".
     
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    I would even say that when lived on the streets and in shelters etc, that this makes a person less knowledgeable about voter fraud conspiracy claims.

    You don't need to have lived on the streets etc to be able to figure out that viruses come and go.

    Question yourself.... who says that, and can they prove it?

    Question yourself.... am I smart enough to understand the claims that can not be proven? Is there an agenda behind it of those who make claims they can't prove?

    You saying it's obvious, is not questioning if it's true. Who did that research? Is it published? Or am I just parroting nonsense just because I like it?
    We previously had the US government claim they had WMD's in Iraq. In the end, the reports say there were none.
    And it's not as if the US government ever published their evidence beforehand. We were not, and still are not able to see their version of what now is: a dirty lie that got 100.000's of people killed and millions fled for their lives.

    Point remains, champ, that you're not questioning your own theories.
    You only are questioning other peoples claims.



    And I can tell you. It was dang easy for me to find out to spot your voter fraud claim was utter nonsense.
    It took me less than 2 minutes. So you know, this only shows you're not interested in the truth.
    You just like to hear what suits you.
     
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    As well as ethics. In Asia USA doesn't have a track record of aggression any less troubling than China's, despite all the American propaganda otherwise.
     
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    you might want to check corruption index of india vs china. there are plenty democratic countries that are extremely corrupt, many in S.America/SE asia/Africa etc. it all come down to who can provide more to the citizens of that country in term of livehood/security.
     
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    I understand that corruption is a problem everywhere. I also understand, that the biggest threats to my security as an individual on this planet are the systems in which almost all power is centralized in one person that is totally unchecked by any other political adversary or media, which communist systems always tend to go.

    And the corruption is more about who can artificially provide more to the citizens. It's about who can best steal from future generations to keep the current one happy.
     
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    When I was comfortable making $150k a year as an air traffic controller, I was under the impression that most citizens treated elections like the people I surrounded myself with. It wasn't until I was on the streets that I realized the massive election fraud that must be occurring in major cities. I got to know those people too. And they don't vote. Like me.

    Except this one isn't going. And I have a feeling that one of these variants in the future is going to be particularly nasty.

    The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming:

    1. The origin is within a mile of the HQ of coronavirus research. It's not like coronavirus research facilities are like 7/11's. They aren't on every corner.
    2. Coronaviruses don't have furin cleavage sites.
    3. A company (Ecohealth Alliance?) applied to DARPA in 2018? to insert a furin cleavage site into a coronavirus, which is what Covid-19 is.
    4. Both sides, NIH/NAID, and the CCP, refuse to release ANY information on the viruses they were researching at the time Covid-19 broke out.
    5. Fauci and friends undertook a massive censorship campaign to silence opposition.
    6. One can read all of the above in their words and faces behind the podium since 2020.

    One doesn't have to be super smart to be capable of detecting deception. I'm sure this human capability got many a man killed in Wild West saloons.

    If I can figure this out as a guy throwing boxes at Amazon, then certainly my government leaders knew it.

    Not sure why you included this as it supports my claims: the US government will lie about the source of something that kills 100,000's of people.

    80% of the people in Philadelphia didn't register, and then vote. It's insulting to ask me to believe that. Almost as insulting as telling me I'm too stupid to know which gender I want to mate with, by telling me that this person is the same as a person I am sexually attracted to, even though this person has a penis.
     
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    I wonder if Xi will accept Zelensky's invitation to visit Ukraine. It would be very interesting to see that happen. Another good opportunity for Xi to snub his Kremlin underling too. It's an easy play if he wants to expand Chinese influence and prestige.
     
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    I doubt Xi will.
     

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