Is there any legal or political solution to gun violence in America?

What should the penalty be if a person is caught with a gun who has not had training or passed a background check or has a criminal record?

 

Is there any legal or political solution to gun violence in America? YES.
1) No gun sales to anyone under 21 years old.
2) Ban ALL assault weapons. There is no need for them among the civilian population.
3) Background checks on all gun buyers, including mental health evaluations and criminal records.
4) Ban the sale of "ghost guns".

This is all I can think of right now.

 

I guess you support letting anyone who wants a gun to buy one. An automobile can be a dangerous weapon. It can also be dangerous if you don't how the drive it.

Why is a gun any different?

I would think that a conservative who be in favor of prosecuting a person who uses a gun in the commission of a crime. The woke DAs are often reluctant to do that for reasons beyond comprehension since they usually want more gun laws.

 

Do you honesty think that that crooks are going to run up and obey this law? This is just "feel good" legislation.

 

NO. I feel exactly the opposite. I am in favor of stricter gun laws. I was just asking for your opinion.

 

If they don't obey it and are caught with a "ghost gun" the punishment should be severe. That's my opinion.

 

At this point teachers should be encouraged to start carrying concealed handguns ASAP to effectively engage active shooters.
Sending children into Gun Free Killing Zones is conscionable.

 

Teachers should not have to act as policemen. They don't get paid enough for that. Maybe there should be armed guards at all schools---just make that part of the cost of school expenses.

 

Sounds good on paper but in practice, that all depends on if teachers actually want to have guns in school.

 

I wouldn't want to carry a gun in school if I were a teacher. Our teachers have enough responsibility already.

 

Public schools will have to recruit and station armed volunteers on every entrance and floor of schools or require teachers to train and arm themselves as a condition of employment.

 

I believe there are things we could do to improve the situation around the edges, but by and large, gun violence is here to stay. If fact, it will probably get worse no matter what we do.

 

no, you are not alone. the difference is that most of us who would like to look deeper have been shouted down so often that we've simply given up our efforts to wake up the foolish masses. all they are interested in is the superficial. many of these are the same sort of people who espouse progressivism because it has the word "progress" in it or claim the democratic party is superior because its name hearkens back to the concept of "democracy", all while claiming that the illiberal policies they promote are what makes them liberal.

 

Armed volunteers I can see, but if the teachers or staff don't want to have weapons in their classrooms then it's a moot point. Can't force that on them.

 

Carrying a gun cane be a condition of employment. Might not be an issue of armed volunteers were near every classroom.

 

Frankly I'm opposed to both. Have you seen the average teacher? Most would never be able to achieve the the level of competency to safely carry firearms around students. And volunteers would be worse for different reasons; they're volunteers so you would never know if they were coming in or not.

Simply have a deputy from the local Sheriff's department working as a school resource officer. Problem solved.

 

What exactly do you mean by that?
Incidents of "gun violence" also take place in other countries with strict gun control laws.
So obviously "the problem" is never going to be entirely "solved".

And we should remember, when we're talking about "gun violence", we should really not count the ordinary murders that could and would have easily still taken place without a gun.

A lot of the countries proponents of gun control want to compare the United States to are White English-speaking or Western European countries, with much whiter populations than the U.S., by the way, so it appears there is a little bit of cherry-picking going on.

The U.S. stands out in the statistics because (in large part) it is more ethnically heterogenous, thus still counted as a "wealthy developed" country, yet has a lot of the same type of more Third World problems and crime rates found in Latin America and Africa.

 

There are millions of well qualified retired police officers and military veterans who would be willing to volunteer to secure the publics schools.
The school districts might have to pay for card tables, chess, and checkers sets, coffee, donuts, ammunition and a school lunch.

Even an incompetent armed teacher would be more effective than a classroom full of tots.

 

Why is that better than just assigning a cop to cover a school?

 

Violent crime surged in the UK and Australia after the imposition of absurd strict gun control laws, and in both countries it is as easy for criminals to buy every kind of firearm as it is to shop in a supermarket.
Gun Control Kills

 

I voted no. This is not to say that no solution exists as I think there may be some. I voted no because I have no faith in the Republicans or Democrats to set aside their biases and come together to mitigate the problem. Partisan political ideology will not solve the problem. We need a scientific understanding of the problem, not a cherry-picked politically driven examination.

I am an independent with no loyalty to any political party.

 

Professional police have history of acting after a lot of lives and ammunition have been expended by active shooters.
Uvaldi. Parkland. Columbine. The Pulse Nightclub, The Route 91 Harvest Music Festival, Michigan State, Half Moon Bay, Monterey Park, 2022 Chesapeake Shooting, Colorado Springs Nightclub Shootings ... .

IMO, at this point armed security is needed at every entrance and on every floor of every public school.

 

Those are good and I can think of more.....in no particular order
All transfers of gun ownership must have a background check and a 4473 filled out. Both could be done on line. If the gun is used in a crime the last legal owner
could be held liable if not reported stolen.

Mandatory liability insurance. The NRA sells it and the more members, the cheaper it would be.

A national FOID card. It's a card saying you can legally possess a firearm and buy ammunition. The problem now is anyone can buy ammunition outside of Illinois, which has the card. Your Chicago gang banger can drive 20 minutes to Indiana and buy all the ammo he wants.

You can only buy one gun per month. That would ruin the straw purchaser's business model. One of the main suppliers of illegal gun owners.

 

Certified ownership?
Mentally and physically.
And proper operation of firearms and safety.

But that won't stop all

 

What do Chicago and NYC schools do?
Haven't heard of shooting in those large districts.

But to do that costs money. Who pays?