Article 4, section 4

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Based on your posts when it comes to this mess with drugs, I would be right.
     
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    Alwayssa is right. Our universities are as crappy as our cultural value for education. Funny part about other parts of the world though, they don't have the potential for innovation that America has. That's why foreigners often work to excel - so they can work on stuff herd that they would have no chance of working on in their homeland.

    Sometimes they send their work back home because communists don't beleive in innovation.
     
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    they sure do. We innovate, and other countries innovate. Some countries nationalize their innovative ideas, but they still innovate. I take it you never traveled abroad and it pretty much shows.
     
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    Is an invasion of privacy perpetrated by a military force?

    How about an invasive infection? Those pesky military pathogens.
     
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    Supreme Court says yes if it meets certain criteria. But then again, the right of privacy does not really exist in the US Constitution, not explicitly that is.
     
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    No they don't all innovate. Communism does not allow for innovation. The communists got to get their innovations from someone else.
     
  7. Alwayssa

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    That is complete BS. Ever heard of the AK47, or the SKS. Those are highly innovative firearms, and far superior in some ways to our own M16, hands down.
     
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    Lol.

    So this is now the defense?

    Good lord.
     
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    Yes. The AK-47 is a heap of sxxx. The SKS is nice if it was made in Russia. The chineses ones are crap, the Albanian ones are crap. The Yugoslavian P.A.P. is decent enough, but mostly because unlike Russia and China Yugoslavia does not have chrome so they don't chrome the bores.

    But the only reason Russia built the SKS is because of the war, and Russia was not communist at in 1945 when the SKS first went into service. It certainly was not the first semi-auto used in WWII, it saw like two weeks before the war ended. The USA has all the innovation- M1Carbine, M1 Garand, and Samuel Colt, and John Browning.
     
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    What's that supposed to mean? I've been all over the USA.

    I take it you never held an AK-47. It is a cheap thing by design.
     
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    Tyvm for all the interesting sources of information.

    Your first source, Forbes, seems to confirm my thoughts on the issue. Specifically that open borders will drain talent from other countries and have a minimal negative impact here which will be offset by the long term benefits from a rising talent pool and lower labor costs.
    OTOH, Americans will do any job depending on the offered wage. Migrants help employers keep labor costs down.

    Could not copy/paste from Forbes. They seem to be relying on this source:

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    "Jan 15, 2021 — The United States of America remained the largest [Primary in Forbes] destination, hosting 51 million international migrants in 2020, equal to 18 per cent of ..."
     
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    That is perfectly clear. Gov. Abbott of Texas applied for protection under Article 4 though I can't recall if it was done when the Texas legislature was not in session. In any case Biden didn't give him the time of day.
     
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    TX and AZ both need to sue CA- I forget the exact clause, but states are constitutionally required to give up fugitives from other states to other states. Aliens are aliens, but CA seems to catch them and let them go.
     
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    Mandatory minimum 40 year prison sentence for anyone who didn't enter at a port of entry, or who overstayed their visa by an unreasonable amount. Followed by deportation.
     
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    Wall maybe?
     
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    We should incur $1 million expense to house them in a prison cell for an illegal crossing???
     
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    You could build the wall many times over for the cost of imprisoning illegal aliens for 40 years.
     
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    As some that claim walls don't work.... when they have to open a door to get into another room, instead of walking through a wall.
     
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    AK 47s are now made here BTW.
     
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    how do you define "unreasonable amount of time?"

    Second, if you overstay, and marry a USC, then you can get approved, generally for a green card. You can't with EWI, but with visa overstay, you can.

    Deportation can be a self deportation or a court order.
     
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    Do you often avoid giving straight and honest answers?
     
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    But not at the rate of millions per year as we see currently. I was born during the Roosevelt administration so I've seen a few administrations also.
     
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    Hi, Eleuthera.

    As a mater of fact, I don't.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well
     
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    Hi, fmw.

    Rates have varied with time. This is true.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    So what? They made M1 Garands here back in the 1940's.

    The only reason the AK-47 sells is because it is cheap. The AAK-47 was nothing innovative as a design. It's not like it's the first gas-operated automatic.

    Now, the Saturn V rocket, there is some ingenuity. How long did it take the communists to reach the moon?
     

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