Russian statement on what it says was a major Ukrainian attack

What is this bizarre obsession with NATO warships in the Black sea? Let me guess, you read some article somewhere. Since this is such an obsession I assume you have researched it carefully, so I have questions:

*Has America EVER deployed a carrier to the black sea? If not why not?
* Why is a carrier (or cruiser) in Sebastopol so much worse than one at Constanta or Trabazon? Those are both NATO ports, in one case for 70 years. If the US wanted carriers or cruisers in the Black sea it could par them there & sail them closer to Russia (you may not know this, but ships rarely engage in combat while actualy in a port)
* Why is a carrier (or cruiser) in Sebastopol any worse than one in the Baltic, which NATO has been able to do since the 50s?
* Why is a carrier (or cruiser) in Sebastopol any worse than US aircraft or troops in Poland or the Baltic states, which America has been able to do for almost 2 decades?

In other words, why does your questionable claim, for which I have seen no evidence, justify Putin's mass murder & genocide. Looking forward to your well informed responses.

 

My 2 cents worth...is an American carrier like the Ike or Abe Lincoln in Sevastopol harbor would be a slap in the face for the RuZZian psyche....

 

Our sources aren’t reliable at all for what’s actually going on there anymore. Seems impossible to tell.

 

If you are referring to western mainstream media, we can tell what's going on there. The exact opposite of what MSM has been saying, the exact opposite of what the federal government is saying. On pretty much any given topic.

 

It just might not be political this time.

 

Still no major breakthroughs for the Ukrainians but they keep trying. So far its been back and forth at the front line. If this offensive is a disaster, and the western armor does not make a significant difference, then maybe we can hope for a peace or ceasefire deal between Russia and Ukraine.

I have also been seeing several articles stating that the conscription in Ukraine is being exhausted and corrupted. Remember Ukraine has been at this long before the Russian SMO started. These problems will continue to grow if the offensive fails with heavy losses, of course they could turn around if Ukraine has some sort of significant advance.

 

Pro Ukrainian source Julian Poepcke based off of videos and photo's of the counteroffensive is reporting up to 10% of mbt/ifv's donated have been disabled, abandoned or destroyed.

 

The Russians already sent a hint when they knocked our Predator out of the sky. Putting NATO weapons and troops in Ukraine is a provocative move Just as provocative as placing missiles in Cuba in 1963. It's not just our navy that would be in Crimea if Nuland and the rest of the Ukrainian death cult had their way in 2014. They thought that Russia would tolerate our Javelins, air defense, tanks, planes, special ops troops, biolabs, etc , right next door, in a country with deeper historical ties than that of Canada and the US. They were horribly wrong. And Putin DID strongy object to the Baltics, and the rest, including the attack on Georgia in direct response to the Bush administration saying Georgia would join NATO. Your argument that because Putin didn't attack when we made the Baltics NATO somehow means that wasn't provocative isn't an argument.

I am of the opinion that the mere flirting with the idea of inviting your neighbor's enemy's military into your lands, especially an enemy that has thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at your neighbor for 70 years, is a highly provocative act toward your neighbor. Ukraine has been doing this to Russia since at least 2008.

So I assume you think Americans should be OK with Communist Cuba permanently hosting a couple carrier groups from Communist China? Well, Cuba is a sovereign nation, so if they want to allow the Chinese to set up a sophisticated, integrated air defense network over the island, all Americans could do is watch them do it? Right?

 

Where's these biolabs??

No one has found any?

Maybe in one's dreams?

 

The US would consider it illegal to invade a sovereign nation such as Cuba, or to prevent it from hosting the Navy or Air Force or missiles of another nation.

 

... 5 days later:
Washington Post
Opinion

The Ukrainian offensive is beginning. David Petraeus is optimistic.

By Max Boot
Columnist|
June 9, 2023 at 8:00 a.m. EDT

 

Ukrainian's make successful attack and capture of Blagodatne and Neskuchne. Probably the first significant action from Ukraine in their counteroffensive.