Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

So much for being "agnostic."

 

I can definitely agree with you on the money part of the holocaust can get exhausting. unfortunately it often comes down to people trying to just keep getting money wherever they can. IMO, it actually diminishes the credibility of of the original sin ie holocaust. I’m also against paying reparations to blacks for things that were done generations ago. I’m also against all these huge settlements that some of these families get when they sue the police for wrongful death for millions of dollars, when most of the time their relatives had no money to begin with, and we’re usually breaking the law……..,.
Money is always going to be a problem for us all.

War is hell, we all know that. Some things may not have happened, some things might actually have been worse. Time and spin might cloud things for some. What I believe should be focused on is how dangerous prejudice can be. As a people we should try to work together to avoid such divisions that allow hatred to blossom, not nitpick whether it was 6 million or a lesser number.

 

Yep. There was a ton of fraud involved in people trying to get money over 9/11. Doesn't mean 9/11 didn't happen.

 

And then the Nazis decided to murder as many Jews they could find, in Germany and across Europe. Around 6 million Jews murdered by gassing, shooting, starvation, untreated illness, torture.

And yes, if you deny millions of Jews were murdered by the Nazis and their Fascist allies, you are a Holocaust Denier.

 

yardmeat, heres another rabbi that believes the holocaust has be exaggerated in order to extract excessive payments from germany.

 

Yes. I quoted this post earlier when Koko was, again, contradicting himself on whether or not he denied the Holocaust.

 

do you think rabbi friedman is an anti semite?

 

If I thought so I would say so.

 

so if koko said the holocaust is fiction would you say he is an anti semite?

 

I've never called Koko an anti-Semite. If he said that the Holocaust is a fiction (which he can't decide whether he claims or not), then he is historically inaccurate and ignoring basic critical thinking, but people can be intellectually dishonest (as all Holocaust deniers are) without necessarily being anti-Semitic. It would just mean they've blindly copy/pasted anti-Semitic conspiracy vomit, but it doesn't mean they thought it through enough to actually adopt the ideology of those they are working for.

 

so is rabbi friedman a holocaust denier?

 

I don't know if he is nor not. In the quote provided, he says it was a fiction. So, yes, if he actually said that and it isn't a mistranslation or a misquote, he's a Holocaust denier.

 

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so are holocaust deniers anti semitic?

dont you think you should check the rabbis comments to see if its true he said it?

 

I don't know how many times I need to answer this question and I've answered it multiple times: not necessarily. Some are just historically illiterate dupes who copy/paste anti-Semites without being willing to apply a sliver of critical thought without being anti-Semitic themselves. They are puppets for anti-Semitic, but not necessarily anti-Semites themselves. Sure, the majority or anti-Semitic or at least think that being anti-Semitic is more important than thinking critically, but some of them are just honest in their failure to think critically.

 

so you agree then that saying the holocaust is fiction doesnt neccessarily make one an anti semite.

ok, on that note allow me the privilege to state that itoo believe the holocaust narrative is fiction, in that the 6 million figure of murdered jewish ppl is extremely exaggerated. is it fair to label me an anti smeite now?

 

I believe I've said so several times. Some are have just abandoned critical thinking skills to be the puppets of anti-Semites.

No. It would just mean that you have abandoned critical thought and have become the puppet of anti-Semites . . . and that you owe me 1,000 pounds.

 

im sure you know more about this than me so allow me, what were the start dates and end date of the supposed systematic killings of jewish ppl in germany and the surrounding countries? you should know that.

 

You either deny it happened or you don't. If you do, you owe me a lot of money and I'll gladly provide you additional info. If you accept that it happened, there's nothing more to discuss.

 

ok but on that note, ithought it would be quicker to ask someone who possibly might know these things without me having to google it, call me lazy but iwould see it as a great opportunity to show my knowledge if icould just reel out some dates, it would make ppl know that im serious and know my stuff...

 

You said you owed me a lot of money if someone here denied the Holocaust, and now you are hinting that you deny the Holocaust. You either deny it or you don't. If you don't deny it, then we're good and you don't need more info. If you do require more info, you do deny and you owe me quite a bit of money, and I'll gladly provide more info when that check clears. Taking a stand either way would show you are actually serious.

 

im saying iquestion the number, not that it happened. does questioning the number make me a holocaust denier?

 

There's a possibility that maybe it was closer to 5 million than 6 million. No one complains about that and it has nothing to do with the topic.

 

imo it has alot to do with the topic. look at this hypothetical: man say it was only 200,000, rather than your 5 million. is man a holocaust denier?

 

The hypothetical actor is an idiot and completely historically illiterate, but not a necessarily anti-Semitic. I'd give it a 99% chance.