Trump the only living president NOT descended from slavers

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    You think that was Rueters' motive?...lol
     
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    Do you think it matters that someone's great great great grandfather owned slaves?
     
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    It would if it was just Republicans on the list, or if it was Trump instead of every living president BUT Trump.

    Remember when the Leftist media was all up into Trump's German heritage? That was important.
     
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    Were they really? the media made a big deal about his German heritage? I have a feeling whatever story you are talking about got more coverage in right wing media than any meaningful left wing media.

    I recall them making fun of the fact that his family name was changed from Drumpf, after Trump had made a comment about someone else's (maybe John Stewart) last name being changed.
     
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    If reperations come to fruition, who should pay them? All United States tax payers, or just the descendents of slave owners?
     
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    Yes, really...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/travel/trump-family-roots-europe.html

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1910/S00036/the-america-of-trump-s-father.htm

    https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-trump-germany-20160321-story.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/trump-family-heritage/index.html

    https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ancestry-forefathers-kallstadt/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ail-of-the-donald-in-the-trump-ancestral-home

    There was a desperate search for a Nazi connection.
     
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    Is that what you think those stories are about? Trying to connect Trump to Nazi's?

    If they wanted to connect Trump to Nazi's they wouldn't have to go to Germany. They could just go to one of his rallys.
     
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    That's exactly why the media was digging into Trump's family tree

    When that failed, they just lied about it...

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-adolf-hitler/
     
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    Do you think it matters that someone's great great great grandfather owned slaves?


    I'm trying to figure out why you decided to make this thread.

    It's not the media's fault that you made a conscious choice to start this thread. You must think it is important.
     
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    ? I never attack any politician over such non-issues.
     
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    That goes both ways, of course. Too many are happy to make a team sport of national politics instead of voting responsibly and holding their team accountable.
     
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    As true as it is irrelevant. And Trump pandering to it to try get more black voters is one the same level as Biden's idiotic "you ain't black" brainfart.
     
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    The sad part is that Trumpists think that is in any way a relevant consideration.
     
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    Alas.
     
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    But when you factor in that the slave trade was started by black African tribal leaders who were selling their own people to Portuguese traders as slaves, it gets complicated.
     
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    Can you quote any of these articles saying anything about Nazis? Trump's grandfather moved here in the 1880s. The only time I've heard of any "Nazi connections" with Trump from the left was when it came to him reading Nazi literature.
     
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    Nazi was an abbreviation for the National Socialist German Workers' Party, and no way would Trump be associated with socialism.
     
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    Nazis abandoned socialism after Hitler took over and drove the socialists out. And I don't argue that Trump is or would have been a Nazi.
     
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    Are you kidding? You should be able to get eight grand out of that car!
     
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    Not really given the "bi" element. Presumably that comes from his white ancestors (much like Trump's, weren't his black outside the US at the time anyway).

    Lots of those voters will be descendants of slavers as well though. I don't think anyone has considered that a factor in voting. It'd be taking the whole "sins of the father" thing to an even more ridiculous extent.

    No, it was a joke. I suspect Rueters' primary motive would be, like most commercial media, get readers, though I think there was also a credible element in trying to use this as a way to get people to think about how recent and ubiquitous slavery in the US was (though I'm not surprised partisan politics drowned out anything meaningful).
     
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    Wait . . . did Reuters even check for slaveholders outside the US or did they only look at slaveholders within the US? It seems like they are only looking at the descendants of AMERICAN slaveholders, but I could be wrong.
     
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    Why we should pay reparations then?
     
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    Only Americans responsible for everything, so any Democrat politician should transfer their wealth to black people.
     
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    All it means is he's descended from immigrants who came after slavery. So the real irony is that the most anti-immigrant president is a descendent of more recent immigrants.
     
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    Que?
     
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