Is birth control next?

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  1. FoxHastings

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    That is their effort to turn women into nothing more than broodstock, animals, COWS, which they compare them to..
     
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    The only secular argument I can see for a contraception ban is an underpopulation crisis. So... Has China already done this? They are headed towards such a crisis, with an aging population and shrinking numbers due to the one child policy flub a while back, and near zero immigration.
     
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    "Being" is a VERY loosely defined term. Sperm may be a "being".
     
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    Not if it is destroyed before that happens.
     
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    Corpses are also human. So are hairs in your sink. So what?
     
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    Yes, is there a point to your post?
     
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    Yes it is. Plus if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death
     
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    I was already aware of your opinion. I don't share it, however.
     
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    What does firearm training have to do with public schools? Military schools like VMI, New York Military Academy, and so forth, sure. Even I had that when I went to the military academy when I was a yonker. But not in public school unless the person is in an ROTC program.
     
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    Sex education is not limited to heterosexuals or homosexuals. It is really asexual, meaning that sexual orientation should not matter nor be discussed with proper sex education. Sexual orientation should be discussed in another venue, social studies class, which should also be required.

    Proper sexual education is not just about pregnancy, it is about safe sex if or when two people decide to have sex. It also includes sexual diseases, all of them, how to prevent sexual diseases, how to maintian good sexual health, and so forth. It is biology, philosophy, and ethics, all rolled into one.,
     
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    If a person has brain death, or brain stem death, then there is no activity from the brain. The other organs are just functioning until they cease to function. there are specific tests by neurosurgeons who can establish if a person is brain dead, which under the state law, generally, are considered deceased. Many brain-death persons will either themselves through a medical directive, or a loved one who makes the almost near-impossible decision, to allow them to provide organs to others who might live. This is known colloquially as the "walk of life" at a hospital in which staff line up the hallways to give final respects and homage to that commitment.

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/articles/the-challenges-of-defining-and-diagnosing-brain-death
    https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/braindeath
     
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    Thanks. Has nothing to do with my question, but thanks anyway. :)
     
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    Yeah that's why I don't think they will even convince their congregation.
     
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    If they don't protect against pregnancy they don't protect against disease
     
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    How about this policy. Is it negatively impacting your life? Don’t use it. Otherwise, stay out of my relationship with my doctor.
     
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    I’m sure a woman carrying a zygote but not wanting a baby would b thrilled to hand over her zygote to you, to raise. Nothing better than cuddling up with a zygote, I don’t think they make onesies in zygote size, though.
     
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    Can the body pump its own blood? Can the brain think? There’s a good place to start.
     
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    Wait, wut? I thought that was just trolling for lulz. No thinking person has these views. Something like 80% of Catholics use birth control. The rest are infertile or abstinent.
     
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    Society has no right to compel me to procreate, even if humanity’s existence depends on my having a baby. If humanity is that fragile, we shouldn’t be making it worse for the last generation.
     
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    Sorry but do you know the failure rate of “coitus interruptus”.
     
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    I believe the heart can circulate blood by week 5-6 of gestation. But can’t oxygenate blood because there are no lungs.

    Some researchers say consciousness develops the beginning of the second trimester. Others believe male fetuses don’t actually think until sometime after their 24th birthday with female fetuses beginning considerably sooner.

    When do you think a person becomes a person? I’m just looking for opinions as two die hard abortion advocates are already 12 weeks at least apart. One says about 24 weeks gestation, the other believes personhood is conferred only at birth.
     
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    Well I know it doesn't work all the time but you can still do it it still works some of the time that's not the point the point is if that's how easy it is to defy a law then it's not that valuable of law.
     
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    Christians do not do that. Please post things that are true. Falsehoods waste our time.
     
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    Each state can VOTE to allow, regulate, or ban abortion. No one is forcing anything on anyone.
     

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