Biden Officials Open 114 Massive Gates Along Arizona Border

You're right. I don't have an issue. I can't wait to watch all you white Leftists get replaced...lol

 

Brown people = socialism. Been the view on right since the 60s

 

True-
Biden is replacing citizens for the liberals. Dependent citizens who will rely on government largesse to live, and be both obedient and supporting the system that provides that,
I have no doubt we will see the time when the left wants to allow these illegals to vote because- they are here.

 

NOPE!!!

 

It did not. #13 of posts and MAGA complains about non whites. Again.

 

The walls are built such that they'll let any amount of water through that wants to go through, no matter which direction. Hell, they can do it in both directions at the same time!

PS... There is nothing unintended about letting in what they assume are future D voters. Though, through my network, which has a lot of brown people in it, including the one I'm married to, it seems they're not quite so big on the dems as they used to be, so we'll see how this plays out.

 

1) can you deny this?
2) so what. Immigrants can just use a simple ladder and piece of rope to get over that Trump wall. It's no cure one bit.

 

So now opening the gates for illegals, is some sort of weather monitoring/diverting device?

I will give you credit Andrew, biden ought to hire you for his deflection team come reelection time, as if he needs any help getting re-elected, he’s already re-elected.

That’s right I said it.

Nevertheless, send me your resume and I’ll forward it.

 

They only seem to work because there's nothing inside their residential gates that draws people to the same extent that getting into this country away from whatever terrible conditions those folks are running from does. If they wanted in, or if the terrorists, drug dealers, and criminals wanted in to those estates, they'd get in. Walls only stop those who don't have the means and motivation to get past them. For the border wall, that means the poor people who can't afford tunnels, airplanes, boats, bribes, and the myriad of other ways people with a financial motivation can easily bypass the Trump monument. It's not stopping the "threats" we're told we need the wall for, which the people telling you that already know, because their actual goal is to rile you up and get you to vote for them and their nothing solutions. Just like the left-wingers who campaign on banning guns.

 

Your statement is ignorant in calling me racist! Another personal attack by the left as that is all that they have.

 

Anything is possible. The purpose of the wall is not total impregnability, but to greatly increase the difficulty of avoiding the legal entry process.
If the fact there is a way to defeat that makes it useless, why have vaults at your bank, or a lock on your doors?

Because the quality of life depends on order and control. Both your control of your own decisions, and our collective control of our own nation. When you add people from other environments, you have to know what kind of people-you are adding to the nation you live in. If you don't- Our nation can become more like the one they came from instead of the one they think they are coming to. Why are they coming here? What values or detriments do they bring that will contribute to or harm America? What dangers? You have NO idea- if you do not have the power to vet them first. But it's obvious that the people who come in illegally have no respect for our laws or our people. They have reason to avoid the legal process and controls, and invariably our controls are defeated when we refuse to enforce them.

In terms of their health for example.
The Spaniards invaded the Atec Indians in South and Central America. They brought diseases those indians had no resistance to- and it killed off about half their population. America now has Malaria and Dengue fever, originating here because the sources have arrived here. The impact of illegal entry is broad, and includes disease, criminality, drugs and violence as well as people who could enter legally but don't want to bother with the process. This has all kinds of social impacts. When people come in without restrictions, we get people who have spent their lives in violent conditions- and while they may be seen as refugees from that violence, they are also people imprinted with the basic idea that violence is a tool you use to control others, to gain power over them.

Immigrants must be vetted- unless you don't give a damn about your own life or nation. If I walked into your house unknown and uninvited without knocking or asking, you would rightfully believe that I probably pose a threat to your life or property- because I have disregarded your security and right to control your home, and I have absolutely no right to be there. When people refuse to knock on Americas door and sneak in by knowingly violating our laws- you would have to be short a few bricks to think there's nothing wrong with that. While it's true we can't totally prevent illegal entry, it's also true that we can very effectively limit it. You do that everyday in your own life and home. We all do, because that is what preserves the quality of our lives and our ability to control them. What happens to America happens to YOU too.

 

What government allows itself to do IS the problem. The duty of the government is to serve the best interests of the people- honestly and transparently.
I doubt you have ever seen that happen. And if you continue to tolerate that condition, you never will see it.

 

When the government plans to spend, who knows how many billions on a wall, that simply can get scaled with a dirt cheap ladder and a piece of rope, than it makes sense that the government is going eyeball if that gold plated wall can be made with bronze as well. It is so, because people pay taxes for it, and they want to pay less taxes and they get to vote in the government.

There is no idea who they are? lol
Them lot usually end up doing hard jobs for low wages that Americans themselves do not want to do. And the reason why they come is because people/companies PAY them to work. And this is nothing new at all. In fact, this is how people in the US know how this all works. You know how it works in a country like Germany? The illegal immigrant who works can get a fine of 5K. The company or person who employed such a person can get a fine up to a kewl half a million euro, per individual case. So if you and your neighbor wants to have your lawn mown, than both of you could be paying half a million in Germany if that's done by an illegal immigrant. A company who got 5 of them and gets busted, can get 5 times half a million in fines.

https://www.zoll.de/EN/Businesses/W...ance/consequences-of-non-compliance_node.html

lol
The source of malaria and dengue are mosquitos. While your typical immigrant is a heck of a lot less violent than your average American.
for reference: https://crim.sas.upenn.edu/fact-check/do-mexican-immigrants-cause-crime
So all in all: this is just xenophobic ultra right wing manure.

What happens in El Paso, a city with a freaking sky high % of undocumented immigrants, is that it ends up to be a very unamerican safe city.

 

I didn’t call anyone racist.

 

Of course you didn't. Leftists always know how to bring race into discussion and always "imply" an individual is racist. It is their "left hook". It is difficult for them when it is countered with a "hard right"!

 

So, to summarize, this thread is more rightie hate, fake news, histrionics, outright lies and name calling.
No actual facts in sight.

How very weak.

 

I stand corrected. You were not the only one making racist comments. Painting the entire group with a broad stroke based on the actions of a few is what racists do.

Would you say there are many legitimate reasons to oppose illegal immigration?

 

Sure sure. But 18 billion is still 18 billion, where it can be scaled with a ladder and rope costing 50 pesos. It still makes sense cutting billions of that bill if the "problem" from the immigrant remains the same.

No. I am saying that the idea of just having immigrant stopped at the border, but let them roam free around ends up to be rather dumb.

And I dunno where you get that idea from "should not have to work". People want to work, but they want wages for doing the job to make a living. Currently low end jobs, and there are lots of them around, can not make you a normal living. Enter the immigrant.

That is your opinion. But get this... DATA about what kind of immigrant goes to the US says they are far less violent than your average American. And I see no problem to hop on your emotional bandwagon when DATA disputes it.

 

The replacements are on their way.

 

Are you aware that blacks complain quite a bit about illegals because they take their jobs and housing? Probably don't see much of that on CNN.

 

What a wall does it make illegals go to a choke point where they can only cross one at a time. Plus, obese and pregos can't hop over a wall or crawl under it. But it's refreshing to see you admit the illegals cross at places other than ports of entry.

 

Hey libs, when Trump started talking about a border wall you all whined that instead of a wall we could use technology to keep the illegals out. Where is that technology and why isn't Biden using it?

 

Unfortunately you obviously don't know that data is generally constructed to show a desired result by the people providing it to you. Given that I have lived and worked in the countries many migrants come from and know the people and situations there first hand, whatever you think you know because you read it somewhere is nothing but amusing.

Proper immigration process is not a migrant stopping to be welcomed, except under Joe's administration. Proper border control has rules and enforcement that work. That takes politicians and legislators who have more in mind than the next election and who they can sell influence too- and leadership that serves America, not their own corruption.
So long as you say the problem doesn't exist, they aren't going to put a stop to it.

And saying people want to work sounds good, but lacks cred. To say they want wages they can live on is true, but doesn't address the related facts.
I had two people hired last week, that never came to work or called to say they changed their minds. All kinds of people want incomes- but the number willing to produce and earn what they are being paid is shrinking fast. Your time is worth nothing. What you are worth depends on what you produce during that time, and its value. I have no problem paying someone $50 an hour- if they produce $75 in profits.
You be that person today, and the good job offers will be thick as fleas on a stray dog. I can and have proven many times that good jobs are always available IF you have something valuable to sell.
The fewer such people there are, the more valuable they become. Only a fool gives his country away.

 

So it's hatred of brown people that is causing conservatives to want the border secured? America's first black president disagrees.

Bill Clinton: ‘There Is a Limit’ to How Many Migrants U.S. Can Take

Former president Bill Clinton said in a recent interview that “there is a limit” to how many migrants the United States can take without causing disruption.

Clinton’s comments came during an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria, who asked, “Now what you have is a lot of people who are essentially economic migrants . . . essentially gaming the system, using the asylum as a way to get in. Isn’t it true that there has to be some order placed on this? Some control?”

“I agree with that,” Clinton replied. “That is, there is a limit to how many migrants any society can take without severe disruption and assistance, and our system is based much more on an assumption that things would be more normal,” Clinton said on a CNN podcast with Zakaria.
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Clinton acknowledged in his own 1995 State of the Union address as president that “All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country.”

He added at the time:

The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That’s why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bill-clinton-there-is-a-limit-to-how-many-migrants-u-s-can-take/