Which statement was racist?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    All of them because skin colour should not matter
     
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    That is not an excuse for them committing such high rates of violent crime. Do the Jews in Germany commit most of the murders these days? How about the robberies? I can't remember the last time I saw an orthodox Jew pointing a pistol in the gas station attendance face.... Probably because it would be the first time I had ever seen such a thing
     
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    When you are compiling statistics and data, it does matter. Speaking of statistics and data what percent of the Australian population is black?
     
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    You have to remember. Math is racist.:) Anything certain people aren’t good at apparently is racist and we have plenty of people who can’t comprehend basic statistics and simple math. This thread is the usual proof and the responses are the usual responses. Leftists don’t understand math. Never have.
     
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    No one has said that on the left in mass to a group as a whole. You may get some people talking saying this but not official policy. The last time I saw that flag was in 2010 during the huge Tea Party movement where you had people who quite literally said, "you don't mix a mule with a thoroughbred and expect a racing horse" type of comments. And yes, there were people in that movement who were. The Tea Party eventually became what is now known as the "Alt Right today
     
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    Yes and what about the figures? What should we conclude about them?
     
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    You know how to adjust for per capita math right? Some of them exceed even without doing that. Screenshot_20230901-211924.png
     
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    Something like 25% of families in slave states owned a slave in the Antebellum Period. I don't know if 75% constitutes the "VAST majority."
    Huh?
    You'd think white people are worse off than blacks.
     
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    It seems to me that your supplied dictionary definition of racism answers your question.
     
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    If only people actually understood the definition. Pretty simple really.... Boils down to perceiving some races as inferior and others as Superior
     
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    Per capita adjustment is pretty irrelevant because raw numbers included, black people lead for arrests in 2 categories and whites lead in just about everything else. So you can go ahead and make the flimsy argument that someone who is a murderer may be black and I’ll counter it by saying someone who becomes a rapist may be white.
     
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    Some are. Some not. Depends if they worked hard or not. What we do know is poor white people have no policy that specifically helps them compared to poor minorities. Work, school, life? No one helps poor white people. They have no real advocates in comparison.
     
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    Per capita is everything. Is math racist in your world? Raw numbers remove all the context. And without context there is no understanding of the data.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Professional_Engineering_Employees_in_Aerospace#:~:text=SPEEA%20was%20formed%20in%201946,and%20Technical%20Engineers%20(IFPTE).
    Millions of educators, including university profs, are in unions.
    What does "socially transitioned" mean? What was kept from parents--and why? In some cases, laws insisting teachers protect students make it illegal for teachers to report things they know to parents because the parents might physically abuse the child.
    They're still around.

    https://www.pta.org/
     
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    A complaint I've had for decades.

    The question I have for you--are you wanting to help white kids or justify subtracting help for minorities. A lot of your team is going for the latter. If you folks gave a damn about people, would this be happening?

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    Coming late to the party here and admitting I have not read the entire thread:
    NONE of the statements are racist if they are true and are presented as simple statements of fact.

    ALL could be racist in certain contexts, for instance implying that 63% of black people are murderers with the statement which would be grossly inaccurate or implying that black people are good for sports and nothing else which would also be grossly inaccurate.
     
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    Be that as it may, the math says that if you arrested 10 people for something like murder or robbery chances are they’ll be black, per my chart. However for literally everything else, chances are most of those arrested will NOT be black. They won’t be Native American either to be honest.
     
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    Yes math is very relevant. You do understand that per capita adjustment means that black people represent 13% of the population while white people represent over 50% of the population

    This means on paper by looking at raw numbers it appears that white people lead in certain categories but once you adjust for that mathematical fact it becomes clear that black people actually lead by far.

    You cannot just declare that per capita math doesn't matter. That's not the way it works my little progressive buddy.
     
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    I'm asking about how we should view the high black crime RATE.
     
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    How you view it is up to you. But just pointing out the fact that it exists should not get someone falsely slurred as a racist.
     
  21. MelshieMaze

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    Not quite, whites still lead in the vast majority of arrests percentage wise, both as a whole and in almost all categories of crime. And let me take this further, the percentage different arrests for blacks and whites for murder and robbery isn’t even this ginormous gap people think it is.
     
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    That's not how math works. The reality is black people lead in the vast majority of crime.

    You even posted the FBI statistics that prove it at least for people who understand what per capita math means.
     
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    The chart I posted says otherwise and per capita or not, statistics says the average person who’s arrested for any crime won’t look dark skinned.
     
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    Straight from your bottom link there.....

    "The motivation of the shooting must not correlate with gang violence or targeted militant or terroristic activity.* "

    Isn't that terribly convenient for the white people bad agenda? The only way you can attempt to make your argument is to subtract gang violence which qualifies as a mass shooting with four or more victims. If you don't subtract gang violence gang violence also represents the overwhelming majority of mass shootings.

    There are lies, damn lies.... And then manipulated statistics
     

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