What The Liberal-Left Does Not Understand About Trump

When a thread gets this long I sometimes like to go back and see how it started. In this case it was a curiously paranoid, dystopian view of what ordinary people who happen to work for government agencies do. As if some guy working for the Dept. of Agriculture in the office making sure milk is safe to drink is somehow a fascist apparatchik. I can't help wondering where these conspiratorial delusions come from?

 

Sometimes I think it is a matter of semantics. "Cutting funding" and "reducing funding" are used synonymously as "defunding" the police. There is no getting around it that several activist groups and several prominent Democrats have called for 'defunding' the police and every now and then somebody wants the police departments abolished altogether. And these kinds of initiatives are pretty much universally Democrat.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...ing-their-police-departments/?sh=118c3d1e29e3

https://www.newsweek.com/which-lawmakers-support-defunding-police-1510556

There was even legislation introduced I think in 2019 in the House of Representatives to pull some funding from cities or states who abolished their police departments or significantly reduced funding for the police.

A problem with political rhetoric is too often the hyperbole distorts the reality, i.e. "Democrats are for defunding the police" as opposed to the reality that SOME Democrats are for defunding the police. Both sides do it and Trump certainly in his shorthand manner of speech was guilty of it from time to time.

 

Well, explain the highlighted above

Help me out with my reading comprehension.


What other country(s) have gone down this road?
Not sure how you think I comprehend that wrong. But hey, go ahead and explain.

 

Then I was correct.
You want to make the decisions for all women in the world. Even for those who may die as a result of pregnancy.

That's what I suggested earlier and you denied.

Good day.

 

Gov't is gov't.
Fed covers the entirety of the country. State covers that state. Then there's local. Which covers a small surrounding area.

And in the case of helmets, it doesn't really matter.
They are laws by the State Gov't protecting people from themselves.

 

NONE defunded. That's what the poster Stated.

The one, two, or three were not defunded. Just reallocated within the dept.

 

defunded; defunding; defunds
Synonyms of defund


transitive verb

: to withdraw funding from
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defund

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There's definitions to words. This helps in debates to use the defined words.

 

The Left. Have you forgotten?

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Government-Secrecy-Industry/dp/1118146689

 

The three that I am talking about are very small towns and got rid of their police department. What they did though was allow the county sheriff's office to do the police work for them. And the main reason why they got rid of their small police departments had more to do with funding, aka accounting, than any political idealogy.

 

I don't know but it's sure great to know how you think about every little thing. Keep up the good work!

 

You criticized Daisyair for their opinion and yet you wrote a post with your unsubstanited, conspiracy-filled opinion.

First and foremost, I would suggest you learn about immigration law and not regurgitate what you read on the internet, especially conservative and immigration restricitonist sites. Second, if you knew what you were talking about, you would know that the argument of "It is the worse it has ever been" has been used time and time again throughout US history dealing with mass migrations from the Irish to today and everywhere in between.

When it comes to the US military, Obama did no such thing. DoD budgets were increasing even though the Republicans had that sequestration policy when it came to government employees and the agencies, through the budget. The DoD was exempt in all of that. And yet, we continued to build F22, F35s, and Arleigh Burk class destroyers, began development on the Ford Class Air Craft carrier, continued to find new military technology, and developed anti satellite missiles that could be launched from ships, namely the Arleigh Burk class destroyer, and so forth. But Obama inherited two wars from GWB with no exit strategy. His administration developed one with Iraq and reduced the troop levels to less than 3000 that are still there today. In Afghanistan, he tried two different strategies and continued to train and equip the Afghan army, along with supporting the current Afghan government. But none of that was "decimating the US military." None at all. PERIOD.

Yes, North Korea was continuously flying missiles. That was aimed not at the US, but at Japan and South Korea. Conservatives, hard-right conservatives, on this board at that time were calling for an invasion of North Korea. But North Korea also developed nuclear weapons, began under Bush Sr, and just continued from there. Bush Jr tried, but failed in his policy with 6 nation table talks. However, all North Korea did was close one facility and build another one when Trump was in office. This is the "looks can be deceiving" type of thing if you really pay attention. Obama's policy was that of isolation and not assisting, even under humanitarian grounds the North Korean people who were literally starving then and now. North Koreans are malnutrition and lack most of the daily intake of vitamins that they need. The black market there is mostly from China, with some from Russia.

China, through Xi and previous premiers, has always threatened to invade Taiwan. they have been doing that type of thing since Ronald Reagan and usually make those when we sell defensive technology or weapons to Taiwan, which Obama did. And when China or North Korea start "saber rattling" as you call it, it is usually indicating something they want. Trump did what no other president did, meet with Kim Jung Un. Kim Jung Un took that to his people and solidified his power and his cult even more because the Barbarians, that's us, met with him. And that is the reason why no other US president has done so.

Syria is still in the midst of a civil war. It was a bloody civil war. And we were trying to support sides that would oust the current dictator. But the problem was that in that chaos, every type of group was there. We identified several groups that would be friendly towards us, but the GOP refused. And when Russia saw what the GOP was doing, that is when they came in. France, UK, and Germany primarily wanted to us to financially support those groups and they supplied the weapons, along with us. But the GOP did not have that way because that would give a "win" to Obama on foreign policy and we can't have that, now can we? Also in that Civil War was a lot of refugees. They fled to Europe and to North Africa regions. We took in some refugees, but the GOP mindset was that anyone who is Muslim is a bad person type of thing. And they used to fear that some may be ISIS or similar groups trying to reach in. The problem, vetting refugees is very stringent and long. And when they do come here, Churches, especially evangelical churches, support them in their mission statement. But the GOP did not want to hear that and continue not to do so.

As for Iran, we had that deal to help prevent, slow, or even stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons and to have the IAEA continue to go to sites and monitor them. But Trump took that away and now Iran is developing nuclear weapons with the help of Russia and Pakistan. Congrats on a job well done lol.

Trump for the most part does not know a thing about foreign policy. None, zilch, zero, nada, and so forth. His policies divided NATO, divided our allies, and divided this nation as well. Trump is not what you call a good president. Never will and history will not be kind to him 50 years from now.

 

A conspiracy book. Woo hoo.

there is no such thing as the "deep state." that is just something made up by MEGA people who don't know how government works and want everything their own way regardless of the consequences in the future. And when those consequences do come, then those very same MEGA supporters blame everyone including the "Deep State," and not themselves.

In all reality, it is simply a regurgitation of the "illuminati" secrets that formed the United States and people in power. Just changed the group from Illuminati to deep state and it is pretty much the same thing.

 

You also forgot MTG, the Freedom Caucus, and DJT calling for the complete elimination of the FBI and defunding the DOJ until the DOJ stops prosecuting or investigating Trump or his allies.

 

People who ride motorbikes without helmets are basically future organ donors.

 

The deep state are those who run the country. It's similar to the role that the administrative and professional classes play vis a vis the elite except the elite still draws up the the agenda whereas the deep state has usurped the power of making the agenda away from the political class [who usurped it away from the citizens].

 

Those that run the country have any names?

 

The millions that work for every three letter agency, the 100,000 lobbyists in Wash, DC, all the corporate hacks with influence over politicians, so on and so forth.

 

So, do you have any names?

 

Then you don't know how the government works. When I worked for the government, aka the deep state, I never ran the country. Those who write regulations do so under the direction of the head of the agency or the head of the department, usually, these people are confirmed by the Senate since we have some 1400 positions in the executive branch needing that confirmation. Furthermore, it is actually written into law that the government has that authority. And those regulations must be within the law that was passed by Congress and signed by the President.

 

If you have nothing to say, say nothing.

 

Deep state usually refers to the people who write the regulations within their department or agency. Such as the regulations of the EPA, IRS, and so forth. You are talking to someone who does not understand the intricacies on how a government works.

 

That's the theory. In practice, it's quite another matter.

Perhaps the people of influence were a couple of pay grades over yours'.

 

Daisyair simply asked you a question if you have any names in that deep state. It appears you don't based on your response.

 

No that's the practice. Period. the rest on what you are thinking of is mostly conspiracy theories. It is the same as if you were saying the Illuminati.

 

This is what you people do when you have nothing left to defend your point. Pathetic.