Under Biden we have had the worst foreign policy in history.

I don’t think this is debatable. Under Joe Biden we have seen the total and complete failure in Afghanistan. A place many of us knew people who have died or spilt blood at. Not only did we lose the afghan war under Biden but we literally gave it back to the very same people that harbored the people who attacked us on 9/11 with a rebuilt infrastructure and US weapons.

We have also seen North Korea, China, and Russia begin to coordinate against American interests abroad. They are trading arms and expanding their reach into Africa.

Foreign interventions matter. Like them or not it leads to economic wealth. It has been that way since the dawn of time. It creates stable and safe trading. Poor foreign policies and signs of weakness makes these situations unstable and other countries will look elsewhere for secure trades. Biden has been a complete moron in this.

 

after 4 years of Trump, one can not say that with a straight face

Trump praised our enemies and attacked our allies

Biden ended the Republicans 20+ year war in Afghanistan....

 

You’re smoking crack. Biden destroyed the American war that started by them attacking us. If democrats want to take the stance of cowardice to those who attack us congratulations you have it.

as far as Trump with foreign strength he outweighed Biden by far. He killed an Iranian that was hostile to us and our interests without permission as a leader should. Russia made no moves on Ukraine under Trump. Syria quit gassing their citizens under Trump. What foreign policy accomplishments has Biden had?

 

What a bizarre and predictably ill informed thread.

The agreement to withdraw from Afghanistan was signed by....wait for it....Trump. Biden actually delayed the withdrawal and some people here claimed THAT was the reason it went badly. So, fail there.

Russia, America's most consistently dangerous opponent since WW2 (and arguably the most dangerous since the early C19th) has spent more than 18 months grinding up its military against a nation that America has supported but not committed a single soldier to. That is a MASSIVE win. Biden is a key figure in co-ordinating the aid to Ukraine that is crippling Russia.

Contrary to the bizarre assertions above, this war is making China & Russia LESS united. China is using the war to make inroads into Russia's 'near abroad', offering security guarantees to nations in Russia's equivalent to NATO. Hardly 'co-ordinating' there.

North Korea & Russia have been allies since North Korea came into existence.

China has been expanding its influence in Africa for two decades no matter who was President and the SINGLE BIGGEST threat to US influence in much of Africa is the Republican threat to defund PEPFAR, which is easily the most important & effective US aid program since the Marshall plan.

Biden has STRENGTHENED US relations with Europe and Asia, which had been damaged by the previous incumbent. NATO just got bigger & stronger and NATO defence spending has spiked. NATO nations are more unified than they have been since the 80s. Without the US leading support for Ukraine and helping to co-ordinate & negotiate at least some of that probably doesn't happen.

In Asia he has quietly been working with allies & friendly nations to strengthen ties & improve co-ordination. The big ticket items here are the establishment of AUKUS & impriving relations with India, but work has been done with virtually every significant nation in the region. This stuff probably doesn't get reported in the propaganda swill the OP reads, but it gets a lot of reportage here because it has been important.

What an epic fail this is. I swear the quality of threads just get worse by the day.

 

Biden is a failure at everything. His foreign and domestic policies are a mess. None of his cabinet appointments are decent. I start to think that Jennifer Granholm is the worst after her EV adventure and then we get the resident fascist lawyer, Merrick Garland yesterday.

Franklin Piece was rated one of the worst presidents, but people have said the Jefferson Davis was a good Secretary of War. The Harding Administration was racked by scandal, but his foreign policy was in good hands. U.S. Grant at least put down the KKK.

With Biden, there is nothing positive to say. And to top things off, he may have been bribed, which might explain part of his incompetence. If that is true, he will be the only president who goes down in history as a traitor. That will make him far worse than James Buchanan, who was pro-slavery and at least thought he was doing the right thing.

 

. . . dude . . . surrendering to the Taliban was TRUMP'S ****ING IDEA! He cut our actual allies out of the the negotations and helped free thousands of Taliban soldiers. He BRAGGED that there was nothing Biden could do to stop his plan and that Afghanistan would fall after his plan to leave was completed. And Trump DEFENDED Russia's attacks on Ukraine. He's even said his plan for peace includes giving Ukrainian land to Russia.

 

Biden deliberately lost the war in Afghanistan, our first lost war since Vietnam.

Bribed Joe left them the best equipped terrorist force in the world, with even air power.

It's as if China had bribed the Bidens and had them in their back pocket.

Even as the Biden Crime Family gets filthy rich off the bribes of Corrupt Foreign Oligarchs.

Poland has had enough as NATO fractures on Bribed Joe's Watch: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/21/poland-says-it-will-no-longer-supply-kyiv-with-weapons.html

'Poland has said it will no longer supply its neighbor Ukraine with weapons, as a rift over agricultural exports deepens. Warsaw has been one of Kyiv's staunchest allies since mutual foe Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022. Poland has donated weaponry, tanks, Soviet-era fighter jets and military training to Ukraine's armed forces. A recent dispute over Ukraine's agricultural exports has threatened to break the alliance.'

PUTTING POLAND FIRST: "We no longer transfer weapons to [Ukraine], because we are now arming Poland," Mateusz Morawiecki, Poland's prime minister, said Wednesday on the X social media platform.'

HERE IS POLAND BACKING THE CORRUPT UKRAINIANS TO THE HILT, AND THE CORRUPT UKRAINIANS FILE SUIT AGAINST POLAND?

'Ukraine filed lawsuits against a number of countries, including Poland, at the World Trade Organization over the bans on Ukrainian grain imports.'

That's a Bribed Biden level 'thank you' and clearly Poland was not amused.

 

Trump negotiated the end to the war, not Biden.

There is no evidence Joe was bribed and there is no evidence that Ukraine is "terrorist" for defending themselves against fascist invasion.

And when we ask for evidence, the check is always in the mail.

NATO is growing, bud.

 

It took just two minutes to bring Trump into this.

 

. . . because it would be dishonest to bring up the withdraw from Afghanistan without mentioning Trump. He was the one who negotiated it. He was bragging about it.

 

Surrendering to the Taliban? Biden called it a success.

As I recall, Trump didn’t defend Russia’s attack as being the right thing to do, he pointed out how a smart opponent takes advantage of a weaker one, that being Biden.

 

And Trump's staff called it surrendering to the Taliban and resigned over it.

No. He literally defended it. And he's said he would negotiate giving parts of Ukraine to Russia. Trump is, by every conceivable measure, more weak on the Russia/Ukraine issue. No one with a sliver of honesty and two braincells to rub together can deny that. You know this.

 

Trump did not close surrender Bagram Airbase and release 1500 prisoners from the two prisons there, were one turned right around a killed 13 Americans and 170 civilians.
Trump did not aid and abet our enemies (treason) by giving them $80 billion in military equipment making America the "new" number one state sponsor of terrorism...
Trump never DEFENDED Russia's attacks on Ukraine nor said his plan for war is provide weapons to prolong the war... peace talks has never passed the lips of the current leader of the free world, only throw more gas on the flames of war...

 

Trump ABSOLUTELY aided and abetted our enemies. He NEGOTIATED THE SURRENDER OF AFGHANISTAN to our enemies. He helped free thousands of them. And the whole "$80 billion in military equipment" is fake news.

 

Who do you think the OP was comparing Biden's foreign policy to when they made the thread title "worst foreign policy in history?" Pretty hard to make comparisons in a vacuum. Is this just your coping mechanism for when you see someone say bad things about Trump?

 

Afghanistan was a failure long before Biden came into the White House. Try George Walker bush. We did well in conquering the enemy, but had no exit strategy afterwards. We have changed policy objectives, trained the Afghan military in how we fight instead of improving how they fight, and pretty much controlled their economy with Haliburton companies.

China, North Korea, and Russia have always coordinated with each other, officially or unofficially. But with China, our relations soured because of one Donald J Trump. No one else with his trade war on chinese imports to our country.

This is an thread fail with your false presumptions.

 

HE'S THE WORST . . . BUT HOW DARE YOU COMPARE HIM TO ANY OF THE OTHERS?!?!?!?!

 

Trump also did a lot of a favors for China. Far more than Biden. The US pulling out of TTIP alone was HUGE for China.

 

This might be one of the most uninformed, revisionist threads I've ever seen on this board. JFC, the desperation some people demonstrate when smearing someone they disagree with politically is mind-boggling. And now that I've said that, by all means MAGA folks, bring on the TDS whinging.

 

"Afghanistan: Taliban leader Mullah Baradar returns after release from prison"

https://news.sky.com/video/afghanistan-taliban-leader-mullah-baradar-returns-12384306

the Taliban and their 5000 Taliban fighters Trump released had been preparing for the end of the war since they made the deal with Trump

Trump helped the Taliban take over Afghanistan with his deal

the deal that gave them a year to prepare for the take-over of Afghanistan

Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David on the week of 9-11

 

if you're all gonna claim Biden is the worst in history, then yep, we will definitely point to Trump

republicans are like, not fair, you can't compare Biden to the last President

 

I think you got the wrong trade agreement. The TTIP was a proposed trade agreement between the US and the EU. We had some 13 rounds of negotiations with over 15 different categories to consider. It was dropped in October 2016 after the last round of talks.

What i think you are referring to was the Trans-Pacific Partnership, in which China was specifically excluded. Donald Trump took us out of the agreement in 2017, by executive order because he didn't like it. And because of what he did, it is now virtually impossible to rejoin the agreement.

 

and you know it went well when Trump starts whining that he is not getting credit for ending the war

"Trump complained on a radio show that the media spent 'all night' Sunday covering the devastation wrought by Hurricane Ida instead of his 'great agreement' with the Taliban"

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-complained-media-spent-weekend-covering-hurricane-ida-2021-8

 

Imagine if Biden tweeted this

 

Yep. You notice every time we talk about Biden, they bring Trump into it. That’s because their man is so bad, they don’t have any way to defend his entire presidency. Biden is a disaster. I shutter think of how much more damage he can do over the next 16 months, if we are lucky enough to vote him out of office.