Mom shows them what they need to see

Your comment says what we need to know about you.

 

Fancy way of saying pushing a narrative on impressionable young kids.

This was just one of the examples I posted, and your only focus as you thought you had me caught.

Fact is, every facet of school, media, news, entertainment, is hyper overwhelmed with the LGBTQ narrative. It's no where near in alignment with the actual number of LGBTQ that exist.

All of it is being pushed intentionally to drive cultural changes deemed appropriate by the liberal left. When it comes to kids, and utilizing our education system, that's called indoctrination.

 

Diversity is our strength.

 

Lets make the symbol an image of an aborted fetus for the purpose of making kids that were not aborted feel valued and welcome. Are you still on board?[/QUOTE]

Let's make it an image of hardcore sex to make sexually active people feel welcomed! Obviously an aborted fetus is not okay, but not because it's a pro-choice symbol. It's because it's harmful on its face because it's gore. Again, context, judgement, and discretion are your friends. The health class can have posters up depicting genital anatomy and diagrams about checking for breast and testicular cancer, but the math class can't.

Regardless, coming up with whatever outlandish, bad examples you can think of doesn't rebut what I said. And I can't tell what you mean by displaying a symbol and behaving in a manner inconsistent with it. What do you mean by that? You think a teacher is going to hang a pride flag and then treat LGBT youth badly? Even if that's the case, it's irrelevant to what I said.

 

That's not what the flag stands for. Others have posted several explanations of what it does stand for, but that doesn't fit the boogeyman that bigots are afraid of, so they try to twist it to mean something else. Also, I don't believe that you or anyone else can define "woke" in a way that is useful. When conservative edge lord politicians use it, it's as a trigger word to rile up their base.

 

Ironic you would bring up anatomy diagrams in this topic. How about a diagram of male anatomy titled "female anatomy" because the teacher believes that females can have testicles and a penis?

You and I are just random people on the internet. It doesn't matter what we think. What we are discussing here today is if we accept teachers using their position and influence to impose their personal beliefs on children.

I respect your beliefs up to the point of imposing them on my children. If I accept beliefs I agree with, I also have to accept those I oppose.

There are 3 possibilities:

If we restrict the classroom to what they were designed for, there can be no issues.
If we allow all beliefs to be imposed, you will always have some issues.
If we start deciding which beliefs can be imposed and which are banned, we now have what I call "Preferred beliefs" and "preferred citizens"

Which is the most reasonable?

 

eyWhy would they. They might catch a dread d

So you have been taken in by a propagandist slogan.

Here is the truth about diversity:


But even after statistically taking them all into account, the connection remained strong: Higher diversity meant lower social capital. In his findings, Putnam writes that those in more diverse communities tend to "distrust their neighbors, regardless of the color of their skin, to withdraw even from close friends, to expect the worst from their community and its leaders, to volunteer less, give less to charity and work on community projects less often, to register to vote less, to agitate for social reform more but have less faith that they can actually make a difference, and to huddle unhappily in front of the television."

"People living in ethnically diverse settings appear to 'hunker down' -- that is, to pull in like a turtle," Putnam writes.

archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

 

Egads. What a dumb comment!

I think you're confusing multiculturalism and diversity.

Multiculturalism is welcoming to people of different cultures. They, in turn, participate in society, not "hunker down." Second generations tend to fully engage in society.

 

@LangleyMan


Multiculturalism is widely regarded as a failure:

French president Nicolas Sarkozy has joined David Cameron in condemning multiculturalism as a failure.
Cameron launched a scathing attack earlier this months on 30 years of multiculturalism in Britain warning that it fostered extremism.
His damning verdict came just months after German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that multiculturalism in Germany had failed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gela-Merkel-view-multiculturalism-failed.html

Stop listening to left wing propogqnda!

 

What "cultural changes" do you think are INappropriate?

 

The diagram would be wrong, because male and female relate to physical sex characteristics. Penises, by definition, are a male sex characteristic. Gender, while related to sex, is not the same as sex. It's irrelevant whether the teacher believes those things or not since they would be exponentially wrong (both in their understanding of gender versus sex and physical sex characteristics).

No, I'm discussing whether it's okay to display a pride flag in class to help LBGT youth feel more welcome. You keep saying that's the teacher imposing their personal beliefs on the students. But you haven't explained how that amounts to imposing their beliefs. So before we even get to the secondary discussion that seem to want to have, you have to first explain how displaying the flag is an imposition of personal beliefs by the teacher.

 

Right...you believe being gay, trans, bi, etc. is a result of being talked into it...f'ing brilliant. Hahahahaha.

 

How does it do that?

 

The Left 's desire to destroy the nuclear family.

 

Really? How so?

Care to point to a specific policy that has, as it's entire purpose, the desire to "destroy the nuclear family"?

 

Opposition to inform parents about gender confused children.

 

Really, you think that there are that many transgender kids out there that don't want their parents to know? So many that the protecting those kids are going to destroy the nuclear family?

How many children do you think are transgendered, as a %? And of those how many don't want their parents to know, again as a %.

And you think THAT number is going to destroy the nuclear family?

 

Not according to the trans community. It appears you are stuck on justifying one particular image and refuse to discuss the precedent displaying it sets. Don't you think others would also justify their beliefs being imposed on children in the classroom? The teacher displaying the aborted fetus is helping the students see the truth and is trying to save lives. The religious teachers believes she is saving souls. etc.

The flag represents LGBT. Do you know that the T stands for? You don't even believe in the T based on your own words.

 

I'm living part of every year in a country that is successfully multicultural--Canada.

Canadians, fortunately, stopped listening to people who see the world through your lens.

 

I think there is a CONSTANT drive by the radical left to shove their righteous agenda down everybody's throat. I believe that comes from the belief that everybody's opinion matters and people feel obligated to push the narrative and agenda they support. Couple that with the lefts perspective of collectivism, and they somehow feel a sense of duty and obligation to not only make sure everybody knows their agenda, but also to mandate and force it on to others.

In regard to LGBTQ issues. Nobody had real widespread issues for literally decades with the LGBTQ community. Then all of the sudden, the community felt some need to become victims and ensure that their sexual preferences are shoved down everybody's face and demand acceptance.

It started with parades to celebrate sexual orientation, which I find weird in the first place. I prefer certain types of women... many guys do. How weird would a parade be that celebrates that preference? It's odd. Then, every TV show and every movie needed a token gay person in the show. More recently, it needs to be taught in school, need to start having drag shows for kids, make sure it's all over social media, Then we started having major corporations launch marketing campaigns to further "celebrate" the lifestyle. etc. etc. etc.

There is literally a cultural change that pushes a life style preference to the forefront of everybody's lives. Nobody gave a ****. If somebody is sexually attracted to a moose, I literally don't care. Most people don't. What we do care about is the culture agenda to throw the lifestyle in our face and then cry when we essentially say "we don't care". So... from the drama queens, they weren't getting enough attention to celebrate their sexual preference, so they had to start indoctrinating children.

The collectivists of our society NEED to stop pandering to every minority group that wants attention. They're making it worse.

 

Nah. That's a lazy cop out from you because you can't counter facts.

It's weak.

 

Rather than trying to explain what you mean by using outlandish examples, which at least is not helping me understand your definitions, let's try a different method. You walk into a classroom and see a pride flag. What personal belief do you think the teacher is trying to impose on their students?

 

You didn’t state any facts. You only stated your hysterical beliefs. You literally believe people are talked into being gay, trans, bi, etc. Hahahaha…that’s some funny stuff. Thank you for the laughs.

 

The last teacher I saved (I was on the teachers' union executive) was a devout Christian who kept getting student and parent complaints about proselytizing to students. She was warned several times before the school district administration told her she had to stop pushing her personal beliefs.

If you're in teaching to tell kids "right from wrong," you're in the wrong business.

If you're determined to get upset about pride flags, this will keep you busy.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/heres-what-the-different-lgbtqia-flags-represent/

 

It appears you are stuck on justifying one particular image and refuse to discuss the precedent displaying it sets. To some, it may be considered outlandish to believe that one can change genders. Can you answer my question? Which of these is the most reasonable:

If we restrict the classroom to what they were designed for, there can be no issues.
If we allow all beliefs to be imposed, you will always have some issues.
If we start deciding which beliefs can be imposed and which are banned, we now have what I call "Preferred beliefs" and "preferred citizens"