Biden is creating a new White House office focused on gun violence prevention

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Law abiding people have no issue with registration. :)
     
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    Are you saying you aren't aware of magnet fishing and why its popular?
     
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    Wouldn't matter if it did. Schedule 3 narcotics are illegal, state laws legalizing weed don't beat the supremacy clause.
     
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    Sure it does. Adding all that **** in a configuration that would be miniaturized and work when its supposed to and not work when its not (ie reads your print but not a similar print. Tolerances need to be a certain way, in the device in the programming in the use etc) would be prohibitively expensive even on a POS like a highpoint that is chunky enough to have room.
     
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    Well you sometimes can. Not always. That was what the microstamping craze was about, to make sure a consistent tool mark (in this case a serial number) would be impressed on the cartridge because tool marks can change as you shoot the barrel out.
    Marks from a brand new barrel are different from marks after that same barrel has had a 1000 rounds through it.
     
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    At least you're getting there
     
  7. Reality

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    Felons could not be compelled to register even if it was a thing.

    See Haynes.
     
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    I'm law abiding, and I do have an issue with gun registration.
     
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    for negligence sure. there was a no criminal intent-but let's both be honest-incidents like this are not what motivates the anti gun movement
     
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    I'd say intelligent gun owners never support registration given who pushes for it and why they push for it
     
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    why do you support an alleged crime control measure that cannot be used to prosecute actual criminals?
     
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    I think we can agree on the negligence.
    As I have stated, I am not Anti Gun.
    I support the 2ndA.
    I also support reasonable measures to reduce gun violence.
    What is wrong w/ that?
     
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    A crime of failure to register literally cannot be enforced on a felon. Registering would be self incrimination and you can't force that see 5th amendment.
     
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    Such as what?
     
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    It wouldn't matter if it was changed. You can't possess sch 3 narcos either.
     
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    negligence usually means a lack of intent. a civil verdict is going to be in order. that is not really gun Violence but negligent stupidity. to me violence means intent when it comes to legal ramifications. so what law prevents unintentional stupidity that in all fairness-is not exactly foreseeable. the same thing--99 out of 100 times, no one gets hurt
     
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    I only had the registration = confiscation thing the 1 time.

    Numerous other replies to different posts of yours with different subject matter have been sent though. Its a discussion forum, sue me.
     
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    Back to "those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear" eh?

    I'm law abiding robster, and I have an issue with it.
    :boxing:
     
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    have you ever explained why any rational gun owner would support registering their weapons?
     
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    Getting where? To the Constitution where you need an amendment to have what you're demanding?
    To the Constitution, under the rules of which you lack the numbers to make the amendment you want?

    Remain quite aggrieved over it friend.
     
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    It's akin to saying honest people should not ever want fourth or fifth amendment rights. If you have nothing to hide, why not let the police wiretap your phone, track what you post on message boards and search your car and home whenever they are bored.
     
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    Yeah IDK what he's getting at, dude is going to catch a case from that AND a civil suit.
     
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    Punishing the guy for negligence, when he's negligent, is not going to stop gun violence.

    Being negligent means you KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN not to do the thing, but did it anyway.
    He knew he should keep the arm secure from things stepping on it or jostling it, and he knew he should keep it pointed a safe direction IE not at a live person you're not already authorized to fill full of holes.
    Someone that regarded isn't going to learn a lesson from something like that unless THEY do it and get slapped on the hand and thrown in the clink.

    If that's all you've got for constructive ideas, then we're already in the green zone where you think we should be.
     
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    onlyso.jpg

    Found it.
     

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