The war continues in Israel and Biden says nothing

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  1. Shinebox

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    evade the question and go to Biden … all bark no bite …
     
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    Why the **** should there be a cease fire? Israel needs to take the strip and hold it for their own safety.
     
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    Were you expecting another answer?
     
  4. Shinebox

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    I am asking what would Moolk do? …

    well, you’re the 4 Star General right? … just answer the question…
     
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    What’s left of the Biden Administration’s Foreign Policy. They never had much of one beyond graft:

    'The foreign policy of the Biden administration, which is now just as much a smoldering ruin as the bombed-out buildings.
    At the end of September, Jake Sullivan, eager Russian Collusion fabricator during the Trump administration, now President Joe Biden’s national security adviser, said that “The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades.”'

    'Then there was the bulletin, issued hours after the attack began by the U.S. Office of Palestinian Affairs, a diplomatic post opened by the Biden administration when it resumed with the Palestinian government soon after taking office.
    “We unequivocally condemn the attack of Hamas terrorists and the loss of life that has incurred,” the X-post ran. “We urge all sides to refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks. Terror and violence solve nothing.”'

    '“All sides”? The post quickly disappeared in the face of widespread ridicule and outrage.'

    Biden had a big BBQ yesterday, so today he took a "mental health" day. The luxury of the rich, bribed and corrupted.
     
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    Oh its absolutely in question. You simply dont like that reality.
    I would go based on the most up to date intelligence we had and utilize our resources properly based on that information and destroy the enemy.
     
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    so you’re a war college expert … good to know if I have any questions in the future…
     
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    "Fights back"? They raped women. They slaughtered innocent people - children, babies, the elderly. What they did was not fight back. It was cowardly. Pathetic. Those sons of bitches deserve nothing less than total decimation.
     
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    what do you want him to do, a Trump and say "Very fine people on both sides"
     
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    F*cking pathetic. Weak and pathetic.
     
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    Oh for duck sake. You STILL think he called white supremacists fine people? Just go. Enough of the lies already.

    There are no fine people who side with Hamas. They’re animals. You either support genocide or you don’t. There is no partially agreeing with Hamas. There may be a small percentage of Palestinian stuck, who don’t support Hamas but not many. You’d assume those people would have gotten out of there a while ago.
     
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    That doesn't even start to address what the problems are that have caused Gaza to take part in Israel's war against them.

    I'm not defending the means of their combat.

    But, Israel has been at war against them for a LONG time, denying travel, imports and exports.

    Like this time around, Israel's war includes deaths of large numbers of civilians. They just do it by cutting off electricity and water and using their military aircraft.

    Plus, Israel continues to carry out its humanitarian atrocities in West Bank - there isn't any place where Palestinians are allowed to live in peace.

    How would you feel if a foreign force was bulldozing your home and taking your farmland - on which your survival depends?
     
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    there is no partial agreeing with people that say "Blood and Soil, Jews won't replace us" either, that is the point - there is almost always good people on both sides, BUT, timing is everything and that was the wrong time to say "Very fine people on both sides", period!
     
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    They already tried that.

    Israel has maintained a constant war on Gaza for a few decades now.

    Every once in a while, those in Gaza don't see a way out of the war Israel has been waging.

    Hopelessness breeds violence.
     
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    I’m in Israel’s side. They were attacked and have all the right to destroy their enemy. They attacked non combatant civilians and deserve everything they get. I fully support them!
     
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    Trump did set the bar in Israel relations. He literally moved our embassy to Jerusalem while all other presidents just toyed with the idea. He had Iran (the hamas backer) so scared of him they shot down their own air liner. The only American president Iran has charged with crimes is Trump. Trump killed Iran’s top general with no warning or permission from Iraq on an Iraqi airport. Trump made deals with Iran's long enemy, Saudi Arabia.

    Biden…. He gave Iran (the Hamas backers) billions of dollars.

    there is no real comparison here. Not even close.
     
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    True.
    There is no "wide open" border.
    Locking down the border would seriously damage the economy.
    Israel doesn't have locked down borders.
     
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    This could have and should have been solved in the 1990s when the Palestinians were offered everything they asked for in negotiations and Arafat up and walked away, because the Palestinian goal has always been the destruction of Israel, never to live in peace beside them. Then later, when Israel withdrew from Gaza and the Palestinians had elections, they elected Hamas, and we've seen how that went. What, exactly, is Israel supposed to do? Here in this country, we talk about affirmative action....well, the creation of the state of Israel after WWII was basically IMO affirmative action (well-deserved) for the Jewish people. Then they were attacked again, and actually gave back territory they won in that war to their attackers. They wanted peace, have offered it time and time again, only to be met with more violence, terrorism, and threatened destruction. So yes, they walled off Gaza. There will never be peace for the Palestinian people with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran in charge. THEY have backed Gaza into a corner, and I believe this is likely the last straw for the Israelis.
     
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    "He literally moved our embassy to Jerusalem"

    I doubt that helped tensions in the middle east any
     
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    Theyve had complete control over Gaza a few times. They will have complete control over Gaza again. It's clear that they have to remove Hamas.


    Nobody is going to want to travel to Israel until that happens
     
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    So, "my secret plan to fund this attack" doesn't infer or assert the use of tax payer funds, does it. Not a question. Using frozen funds to Iran simply begs the question of why Iran, suddenly, chose to foment this potential WWIII moment. It didn't occur to you? I bet not. So, no, there is no contradiction here, no matter how hard you try to contort the obvious to your apologist narrative.
     
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