How does a Tropical Storm become a Cat 5 Hurricane in less than 9 hours?

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The AGW crowd cherry picks a time interval to "prove" their point. Go outside of the time interval they pick and you frequently find conditions which disprove what they are "proving". Then they call us "science deniers".
     
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    Food for thought.

    Hurricanes Are Now Twice As Likely To Grow Into Monster Storms, New Study Says

    https://www.wunderground.com/articl...icanes-rapid-intensification-warm-ocean-water
    Hurricanes in the Atlantic basin are now twice as likely as they were 30 years ago to rapidly intensify into major storms packing deadly and devastating damage, according to a new study.

    The paper, published Thursday by the journal Scientific Reports, pins the increase on warmer ocean waters fueled by global warming.

    Rapid intensification is defined as happening when tropical cyclone winds increase at least 35 mph in 24 hours or less.

    The study is the latest in a growing catalog of research linking climate change to rapid intensification and other dynamics that make hurricanes more dangerous.

    About the study and its findings:

    see link


    Hurricanes Twice As Likely To Become Severe In A Single Day

    https://auburnpub.com/partners/video-elephant/news/hurricanes-twice-as-likely-to-become-severe-in-a-single-day/video_39980d31-b35f-52b8-b88c-f0d4350b02a3.html#:~:text=According to a recent study,hurricanes in just 24 hours.
    According to a recent study, the likelihood of Atlantic hurricanes transforming from minor to catastrophic storms has more than doubled. In the past 20 years, 8.1% of storms transformed from Category 1 to major hurricanes in just 24 hours. The study analyzed 830 Atlantic tropical cyclones since 1971, with a mere 3.2% showing this trend during the 1970s to 1990s. Rapid intensification poses challenges for predicting and preparing for these storms, particularly near the East Coast of the US.

     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Not a single bit of proof to support your assertion. And they aren't adults they are power mad children named Karen who want to ruin everyone's life because they hate their fellow humans.
     
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    Golem has taught me one thing, if you cherry pick your sources you right all the time. Down side is you only know half the story and in reality are wrong the same amount of time :(
     
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    You keep saying that something needs to be done so I'm going to ask you a question on two different levels.

    First and foremost what personal choices are you making that you perceive are helping to correct the imbalance?

    And secondly what do you expect government to do? Let's get some specific examples here and not just generalities like shut down coal plants
     
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    An almost totally useless and meaningless bit of data. Please explain how if climate change is the problem the number is still vanishingly small? Note that would mean 1 or 2 per year until the 1990s and now we get 2 or 3.
     
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    Here in Wyoming I have witness spuratic increases in wind gusts from 5mph to 50+mph in the blink of an eye..

    And that's on relatively flat terrain. It not unusual to see tractor trailer blown over, trees uprooted and roofs destroyed without any warning..

    Every once in awhile all the ducks line up and crap happens.. Just because it happens once doesn't prove its the norm or increasing in frequency..

    You want to see wild unpredictable weather, come visit Wyoming for a year

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    Tesla makes cars, not boats. :) Sorry couldn’t resist.
     
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    You don't know what "food for thought" means?
     
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    Yep! Just weather being weather
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10...st-recorded-category-five-explainer/103019720

     
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    But I do. I gave it all the though It needed.
     
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    Nope!
     
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    One.
    Just one.
    Show a single doomsday prediction that has been proven true.
     
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    And yet there has been no increase in hurricane intensity.
     
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    I have to chuckle at how some make such a leap. From the weather changing to it being some type of crisis is laughable.
     
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    The answer to the question that is the title of this thread is...... That it doesn't.
     
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    It's pretty funny how the faithful climate changers typically like to make fun of religion without even realizing that they have religious devotion to these doomsday beliefs of theirs
     
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    Apparently they do intensify faster than before.

    It seems there are more Major storms than before.
     
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    And yet Accumulated Cyclone Energy has declined in recent years.

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    Figure: Last 50-years+ of Global and Northern Hemisphere Accumulated Cyclone Energy: 24 month running sums. Note that the year indicated represents the value of ACE through the previous 24-months for the Northern Hemisphere (bottom line/gray boxes) and the entire global (top line/blue boxes). The area in between represents the Southern Hemisphere total ACE.

    Global Tropical Cyclone Activity | Ryan Maue
    climatlas.com
    https://climatlas.com › tropical



    by RN Maue — Around the globe, 80-100 tropical storms are observed every year unevenly distributed across the Indian, Pacific, and Atlantic oceans. About half go on to reach ...
     
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    ". . . Warm ocean temperatures are a necessary, but not a sufficient factor for hurricane formation. Data indicate, regardless of ocean heating, hurricanes have not formed more frequently during the period of the study or since, and powerful hurricanes, Category 3 and above, have actually declined over the periods of comparison. As a result, even if warming oceans make the rapid formation of powerful hurricanes more likely, confounding factors, evidently not accounted for in the study, have been suppressing the actual formation of powerful hurricanes.

    Data presented in more than 100 previous Climate Realism posts, here, here, here, and here, for example, clearly show that hurricane trends are relatively flat over the past 50 years of modest warming, and the trend in powerful Atlantic hurricanes is downward . . . .

    What do the scientists mean when they say conditions are making it “more likely” or “twice as likely” for powerful hurricanes to form, when fewer powerful hurricanes are, in fact, forming? It’s like a casino claiming they’ve made it more likely than ever for gamblers to win, even as casino goers lose greater amounts more frequently: quite frankly, the claims and the facts just don’t line up.

    One might think, considering the IPCC’s pronouncements about finding no evidence human caused warming is causing an increase in hurricane numbers or severity and the copious publicly available data which underpins the IPCC’s assessment, the media might finally get the hint on hurricanes. Journalists should display a bit more skepticism concerning the latest novel, unverified study claiming hurricanes are getting worse due to global warming. Sadly, this is not the case. The media follows the narrative that purported human caused climate change is causing worsening weather, in this case hurricanes, regardless of facts demonstrating otherwise. For the mainstream media with regard to climate change, their motto seems to be, “damn the facts, full speed ahead with the climate crisis narrative.”"

    Wrong, ABC News, Data Refutes Strengthening Hurricanes Claim
    EXTREME WEATHER OCTOBER 23, 2023
     
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    Except I was being sarcastic because this is NOT something we have ever seen happen before
     

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