Ukraine President Zelensky Says Time Not Right for Elections

I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked that the non-democracy of ukraine won't hold presidential elections. Now the rest of the country will know how the ethnic Russian ukrainians in the Donbass felt for every election since 2014.

Dictatorship complete. It's the only accomplishment by kyiv's cocaine-addicted bunker runt since 2022, not counting eliminating freedom of speech, religion, most other forms of freedom and killing 100's of thousands of ukrainians.

Slava banderastan.

https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraine-president-zelensky-says-time-not-right-for-elections-f5690724

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky ruled out holding elections next year, calling for political unity as his government seeks to retain Western support and public trust after a disappointing counteroffensive."

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...odymyr-zelensky-not-the-right-time-elections/

 

Bill....Ukraine has elections at least.


Federashka has a "tsarstvoh" for life.

 

Of course the fascist invaders are going to try to exploit this situation of their own making. Information warfare is all they are remotely good at.

 

Ummmm exactly how many elections would they be having if your wet dream of Russia slaughtering them all and hoisting their flag on top of the mountain of dead had come true?

 

Not only Ukraine.....Poland....Baltics also.

All the while the Mafiosi claiming freeing the locals from "NAZIS".....LOL.

 

Isn't it ironic that the "progressive" folks all support Zelensky's authoritarianism.... As if progress suddenly now is akin to dictatorship's. Who could have predicted that?

 

How many (legitimate) elections have ever been held in active warzone? Around 20% of Ukraine is under occupation an a large area beyond is the frontline. Ironically, if they did hold elections within the regions they still securely control, that would exclude all of the pro-Russian areas and likely lead to a win for the current government anyway.

 

They've excluded the ethnic Russian ukrainians from elections since 2014. That's not irony nor democracy, it's ethnic discrimination.

 

Where have they excluded...Bill?

Since 2014....that area is busted up by Girkin and his pals.....which ironically the dude sits in a jail cell....awaiting Prigozhin treatment.

 

No they haven't. Official elections couldn't be held in areas occupied by separatists in Donbas or in Crimea under Russia but that impacts everyone living in those places regardless of ethnicity. Ethnic Russian anywhere else in Ukraine remained as free to vote as anyone else. Indeed, pro-Russian candidates won seats in Eater Ukraine in both 2014 and 2019.

There has certainly been conflict, discrimination and bias between different Ukrainian groups in multiple directions and involving various outside influences (a major pert of the reason they're in the mess they currently are) but the fact remains that there is no rational way anyone could hold a legitimate and meaningful election in the middle of a warzone.

 

The war is where nobody was voting anyway. Furthermore, having an election heavily favors any non-ethnic Russian ukrainian. The cocaine addict is scared he will lose, because he would. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Having an election or not is the least of Who-kraine's worries. I say let Zelensky keep his job. It's entertaining watching him squirm.

 

Right....just like the "sham elections" the Mafiosi conducted in occupied areas....where 99.8% "voted" for the Gaz Station ...then got liberated by UAF....and tons of Ukrainians came out in support.....Bill.

Seems you not up to speed on events.

 

So....Botox chimp gets 1000000 shells from NK recently....Mafiosi fires off 30000 per day.....in a month or so ...no shells left....where will Putinka suckhole next?.....LOL.

 

What are you talking about? The 2014 and 2019 were held everywhere other than the parts of the Donbas under separatist control and Crimea. It is a much wider area that is currently under Russian occupation or makes up the active frontlines, and so couldn't be included in any current Ukrainian election.

I don't get what you mean. In general, Ukrainian elections won't favour ethnic Russians because they're in a minority (albeit a significant one). An election held now, which would be unavoidably limited to western Ukraine, it would only emphasise that. On that basis why would Zelensky fear loosing? And if he did win, his opponents would be able to rightfully dismiss that result as meaningless.

I'm no longer clear whether you think Ukraine should hold elections now or not. You appear to acknowledge that any election would be flawed but are attacking Zelensky for saying they shouldn't be held. You can't have it both ways.

 

The "account" you re referring to isn't exactly interested in free & honest elections unless they heavily favor the Kremlins wishes.

 

I damn sure can have it both ways. If you knew the intimate details of "the ukraine" and what has happened since 2013, then you wouldn't be asking such questions. It's not a ****ing democracy. It hasn't been a democracy for several years.

 

This is really bad and inexcusable.

 

Do you think that there's ever a time in the United States when we should suspend elections?

 

It's interesting that you want to lock up an American president for "insighting an insurrection," but you attack Russia when a foreign president is looking to end their democracy. You should probably realign your views to be more consistent.

 

Please enlighten us here....Bill....with the intimate details of Ukraine. This should be amusing.

 

Americans tend to way overestimate the importance of "democracy"

 

Great Britain was scheduled to have an election in 1940. It was decided not to hold elections until the war was over and a government representing all parties & headed by Winston Churchill was formed. When an election was held in 1945 Churchill lost it - he didn't win an election for PM until 1950.

I have heard Churchill called some pretty nasty things, many of them justifiable, but 'dictator' is not one of them. Indeed, Churchill was & remains one of the favourite Britons among American conservatives. Not ONCE have I heard any of them accuse him of being a 'dictator' or question why there was no election held during the war or suggest Britain lacked a committment to democracy as a result of this failure to hold an election.

I wonder why Ukraine is being held to a different standard.

 

Ahahaha... That was expected.

 

I know what you're referring to and while there has been plenty wrong in Ukraine since independence, I don't think it is anything like as simple as you want to make out.

Regardless, that remains separate from the general concept of not holding an election in an active warzone. You're not actually criticising what Zelensky has said here (because you can't), you're just criticising it because Zelensky said it. You'd find a way to object if he'd said the sky is blue.