Pentagon Launches Operation ‘Guardian of Prosperity’ to Protect Red Sea from Houthi Attacks

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    https://dcweekly.org/2023/12/19/pen...erity-to-protect-red-sea-from-houthi-attacks/

    Ahahahaha... The US alone is afraid to stand up to the Yemeni Hussites.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
    The group of ships of the Fifth Fleet of the US Navy and NATO countries is building up in the southern part of the Red Sea - Bab-el-Mandeb Strait - Gulf of Aden. An aircraft carrier strike group led by the aircraft carrier Eisenhower has moved from the Persian Gulf to the western Gulf of Aden. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Is the U.S. Secretary of Defense afraid that the Yemeni Hussites might use hoes against the U.S. Army? Just like the Afghan goat herders did.
     
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    The real question is whether or not the Pentagon has the authority to start a major operation on its own. -- I remember that President Bush had to get Congress' approval for Operation Iraqi Freedom. -- Otherwise, it will be pulled back from it at some point by Congress or the voting results of the next election. Where is Biden in all of this?
     
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    Forget democracy and the rule of law. A country in which the ex-president is persecuted under far-fetched pretexts, but the incumbent president spits on all provable accusations of corruption has long ceased to be a democracy. In fact, the US is now a savage African dictatorship ruled by cannibals.
     
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    Good point. Prosecuting political opponents is more of a communist thing.

    Did you hear about the 2 cannibals eating a clown? One said, "Does this taste funny to you?"
     
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    "The Navy destroyer USS Carney shot down three drones launched by Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen during ballistic missile attacks on three commercial ships in the Red Sea Sunday.

    The attacks took place in international waters over seven hours." (US warship attacked in Red Sea by Houthi drones: How it unfolded (usatoday.com)
     
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    Operation Guardian of Prosperity :roflol:
    Who thinks up these titles, Disney?
     
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    No... Disney would mention Barbie or the Lion King and somehow promote transgenders if they made up the names.
     
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    Why spend only your money and men on it when you don't have to?
     
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    So we shoot the $100k drones with $2M missiles. I’d say the attacks on the ships is a win win for the Houthies.
     
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    Money means nothing. Have you read about the BILLIONS we send Ukraine?
     
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    It will be more costly if Biden decides to bow to his Israeli masters and start another land war in the Middle East.
     
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    Is isn't fear. It is incompetence. Biden has a solid reputation for bad international relations. He is an appeaser. Nobody fears the Houthis. The white house doesn't have the common sense to send the air power and missiles into Yemen. They could put an end to this nonsense in a single day. Instead they are spending millions in appeasement. It is an embarrassment for me. But it isn't fear.
     
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    Wait. Are you saying that you want Biden to start yet another war?
     
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    No, the Houthis have have committed acts of war. I recommend Biden send some munitions to the Yemeni launch sites to prevent a war.
     
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    'Operation Guardian of Prosperity'?

    That means we'll all go broke -

    like how operation enduring freedom and bringing democracy to Iraq all worked out.
     
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    That's to support the democracy they don't have.
     
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    Destroying the facilities that are attacking shipping in the area... ENDS the current war.
     
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    So the billions support nothing? Just as I thought!
     
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    The best excuse for starting a war is to bring peace:

    On August 7, 1964, Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution:
    Joint Resolution
    To promote the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia.


    CIA covert operations started a number of small skirmishes along the coast of Vietnam, then on the basis
    of a photo of a bullet stuck in sheet metal of the USS Madox, Congress agreed to fund a war to bring
    peace and security to SE Asia, and the Military Industrial Congressional Complex got the war they
    wanted, and over 3 million people died.

    The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was passed overwhelmingly.

    Ask people today about the war in Vietnam and most say 'it was a mistake'.

    Yet for ten years it was supported overwhelmingly as being right; in the Senate by 88 for war 2 against,
    and in the House by 414 votes for war and zero against.

    It takes the US public on average ten years to admit to doing something very wrong and very stupid.
     
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    The American public NEVER supports a war long enough. The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was the correct decision and the Vietnam War was fully justified and should've been fought to the end by the U.S.
     
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    It's a fundamental strength and weakness of democracies that they don't generally have much appetite for war and death. Strength because it makes democracies peaceful societies, but weakness because authoritarian regimes such as Putler's will sacrifice more for longer, mainly because their people are steeped in propaganda and kept ignorant of the facts to the greatest extent possible, and of course dissent is suppressed. It is illegal to protest ruZZia's war in Ukraine, whereas here everyone is very outspoken and the negative voices tend to be the loudest and most persistent.
     
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    The Houthis are funded by Iran and they can actually be well trained and supplied like Hezbollah.

    I think having a joint task force is the appropriate response and handling each incident of piracy as piracy is also appropriate. Launching strikes on the Houthi in general would be going too far. The only goal that needs to be achieved here is keeping trade going through the Suez Canal. We are just recovering from the inflation caused by the last interruption of the Suez.


    I tend to think that the initial October 7 attacks in Israel and these efforts to disrupt shipping by the Houthis are the result of Iranian and Russian collusion. I expect that Russia is helping Iran in developing its nuclear weapons program in exchange for Iran using its proxy forces to disrupt the peace and get the west, especially the US, to become too distracted to focus on Ukraine
     
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    The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution happened in 1964. That's almost 60 years ago. Really had to look hard for that one, huh? That's your best argument? I lived through it. South Viet Nam was an ALLY. We had a mutual defense treaty called SEATO (SouthEast Asia Treaty Organization... similar to NATO). We were committed to defending our ally when they requested it... which they did.

    But lets leave sixty years ago and come back to the here and now. Our ships are being shot at. The shipping of our allies are being shot at. It's your solution to just keep being shot at? Maybe we should write a strongly worded letter when we and our friends are killed and our ships are sunk or damaged? Is THAT your solution? Really? Maybe we can beg... or send them gold....

    Or we can attack their weapon launchers, destroy them... and get back to a sense of normalcy.

    Let's return to the here and now.
     
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    They are? I persume you mean USA ships? That has already happened? Further along than I thought.

    Or spread the Israel conflict out to others and snowball towards a world war....
     
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    The relationship between Iran and the Houthis is similar to the relationship between the United States and Israel in one key respect. While the Houthis have been aided by Iran, both at the military as well as humanitarian level, and even though their recent attacks may have been aided by data or intelligence type input requested by them from the Savis vessel in the Red Sea, they ultimately act as they see fit. They even resent, much like the Israelis do with regard to the US, any implication that they follow Iran's dictates. In the case of the Houthis, perhaps with even more justification as their dependence on Iran is again marginal at best and their own input and design very much at the forefront of their actions. And even these days, some of their drones, missiles, and equipment.
     

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