'Loser': Biden uncorks on Trump in fiery speech kicking off 2024

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  1. dixon76710

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    Just like 2020 with violent protests all across the country by ANTIFA and BLM. Deaths, injuries and $millions in property damage and for the most part prosecutors were unwilling to press charges and frequently dropping in mass all charges. While following January 6 we saw a historical effort with one of the largest investigations in FBI history and prosecutions of DOJ history.
    As well, we dont really have much in the way of CRIMINAL law to address "stealing elections". Also while attacking police officers, storming the precinct and driving away all the police to set the station on fire. is obvious to spot and has a long list of criminal laws to facilitate prosecutions. Running a stack of mail in ballots twice through the tabulators is less obvious and not addressed under criminal law.
     
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    Biden is directly accusing a US citizen of a serious crime, he heads the DOJ, but refuses to bring charges on said citizen.

    I never heard Trump accuse any specific person of stealing the election.

    Big difference.
     
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    unh hunh:
     
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    Biden doesn’t “head” the DOJ. He allows the AG to be independent. Unlike his predecessor.
     
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    How original.
    And you spew President Trump is a child for name calling.
     
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    Regarding Obama:
    Sure you don't want to revise your statement? Cause I'm pretty sure I can go on all day like this....
     
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    I heard it was a **** show I'll watch the clips. They'll be more entertaining than watching great grampa act like he a badass.
     
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    That was tRaitor tRump when he cut our Afghan force to 5,000 and at the same time released 5,000, more, Taliban prisoners, which fortified the Taliban army and left our troops woefully out numbered with no reasonable hope of a safe withdrawal.
    That tRaitor tRump has any support left, especially by what was the Republican party and the Congress, is a true wonder, but they are my countrymen all we can do is hope they come to their senses before someone, else, gets killed.
     
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    Not normally. I might have but, if that was the worst thing about tRaitor tRump he might be president now.
     
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    I thought it was a super creepy and angry speech. Anger in Joe Biden doesn't come off as strong. Instead, it comes off as really ugly.
     
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    For all the damage tRaitor tRump has done ALL American's should be angry. I thought President Biden delivered a very important message, my only criticism is EVERY word should have been delivered with greater conviction. His attempt to be reassuring and soothing, obfuscated the message for the people that most needed it. As your comment shows.
     
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    And how, EXACTLY, is that Biden's fault? Did he tell Putin to invade Ukraine? Were we just supposed to ignore what is happening?

    Main cause of inflation? Government spending. Where did the government spending take place that caused the runaway inflation? You only have to look at the record spending during the Trump administration. Now, having said that, the spending is about the only thing Trump got right during the pandemic. Without that spending there is no doubt the American economy would have gone into a recession and maybe even a depression. But again, you are attempting to blame Biden for something that happened during the Trump administration.

    Wages have been increasing.
    "get social services"? And yet you want to back the party that does everything they can to CUT social services?

    No, he did not. He said that a take over by the Taliban was "not inevitable". That the Afghani military with the training and equipment provided should be able to prevent that. Obviously he was wrong but you should be more accurate in your reporting.

    OBVIOUSLY lied?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57260009

    Covid: Biden orders investigation into virus origin as lab leak theory debated

    Trump is STILL claiming that the Georgia vote was rigged. Which do you think is worse?

    It wasn't experimental. It has passed the field testing and was proven safe and effective. Anyone refusing to take the vaccine, while maybe not "unpatriotic", were certainly misinformed and/or selfish.

    A request to control misinformation is not censoring.

    That is just a lie. It is still officially unknown who sabotaged the lines, three separate investigations by Norway, Germany and Sweden point to Ukraine as the possible culprit

    Another lie, the cases in DC, FL and GA are all strong with the case in FL being as open and shut as could be made.

    Trump had the documents
    Trump was not authorized to have the documents
    Trump refused to return the documents.

    These are just statements of facts. Those facts, and those facts alone, show that Trump violated 18 USC 793(e)

    Just showing off the hypocrisy of the anti Biden crowd. Gas prices go up (something the President has little to no control over) and you complain about Biden. He does the ONE thing he can do to bring prices down and you complain about it.
    Just showing that no matter what Biden does, you're going to complain about it.

    1. It was an insurrection.
    2. But even if it wasn't, what rights did he "crap all over"? There is no "right" to use violence to break into the Capitol Building and delay an official action of the US Congress.

    Republicans keep repeating this lie and keep saying that they're going to show evidence of it and then....bupkis.
     
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    Because you are not listening or you don't want to hear.
     
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    Yes, Biden doesn't want to talk about the economy anymore because most Americans are hurting. So, it's on to Trump will take democracy away, while at this very moment, democrats are taking democracy away.
     
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    Ok whom has Trump incessantly accused of voter fraud?

    Biden has constantly accused Trump of a serious crime,. Although he heads the DOJ, after all this time, Trump is NOT charged with insurrection but a series of bs that no one has been talking about for 3 years.

    THAT'S FAKE. Sorry people don't, or won't, see it.
     
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    The polls don't support your claim.
    Need a source that supports your claim. Strike two!
    None that you will ever acknowledge.
     
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    He swore an oath to faithfully execute the laws of the nation. He has the ultimate responsibility to ensure the law is enforced.

    Why are you trying to convince people that Biden doesn't direct the DOJ?

    Why does our system allow the POTUS to fire the AG at will, but doesn't permit the same for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve? Because of the oath. Although it's nice to have a POTUS that knows how to manage a successful economy, that's not a duty he is charged with. But he is charged with the execution of laws. Therefore, he can order the AG to bring, or not bring a case. He can tell the AG to focus on certain types of crimes. And if the AG doesn't listen, he can fire him. It has to be that way, otherwise the POTUS is given ultimate responsibility for a duty that he doesn't have the capability to uphold.

    I don't think people that are trying to convince me that the DOJ is independent know our system, or care to know it. I think that's because there is an intentional effort to destroy it. Probably because they think they are going to erect a new system that basically boils down to the rule is what we say it is.
     
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    He didn't do anything but provoke the attack, and it's clear. Putin amassed his troops and laid out his grievances for months. The Biden team simply said F off. No negotiation or diplomacy whatsoever. Biden had a responsibility to at least try to avoid this catastrophe.

    Look a squirrel! Don't start thinking that the biggest expenditure since the Marshall Plan (except this plan achieved nothing but 500k dead people in Ukraine), or the attempt to isolate the number one energy and food supplier from the global market, has anything to do with the inflation you are experiencing.

    Not enough. If Mayor Adams decided to bus 5k people to my town of 60k, those of us who are only permitted to work entry level jobs may as well leave town; we aren't finding a job in that. 10M people added to the labor pool, means the cost of labor goes down. 10M cars injected into the market will lower the cost of cars. 10M pounds of steel injected into the market lowers the cost of steel. Put on your best 1984 face, and explain to me how actually the opposite occurs.

    And I don't believe Bush said Iraq had WMD'S. He said things like, "We can't wait until we see a mushroom cloud".

    We all know that for about 2 months, the Biden administration painted the picture to the media and world that there was no threat of the Taliban reclaiming power. And there are clips out there in which Psaki tells WH reporters, that indeed, the Taliban has security responsibility for Kabul...WHERE OUR PEOPLE WERE! That was an unacceptable outcome that never should be forgiven by Americans. And he did leave many Americans and Afghan allies who risked everything for our cause.

    Yes, it's obvious as hell that NO WORLD LEADER (including Trump) is interested in finding out who poisoned us, and why? For God's sake, the agency charged with defending us from biological attacks, the DoD (and CIA), are still officially "inconclusive" on whether or not Covid came from a lab. Wrap your head around how ludicrous that position is, especially after 4 years. It's like the agencies being inconclusive as to whether 9/11 was an attack, or a crazy coincidence.

    First, there may be something to Trump's claims. I've lived in these major city streets. I got my free meal every day for 6 months. Those people didn't turn out to vote at 80%+ rates.

    Second, did Trump's claims financially harm people? Because Biden got the All Star game moved, a significant cost to Atlantians.

    Third, yes it is worse to tell the nation that a state is racist, when you know it's not. And unlike the election fraud, it would be easy to prove Biden's claims: trot out one single Georgian, out of millions, who said they were denied the vote. Come on, if you say it was worse than Jim Crow when 100ks of blacks
    were denied the vote, and you don't produce 1, then it's fairly obvious your intent is to divide through fear.

    I've heard plenty of Congressional testimony that contradicts the idea they tested it for transmission. Surprisingly enough, it apparently did the opposite and it's obvious that the countries, regions, cities that got beyond 80% vax rate did the worst in rate of Covid transmission.

    I know that you must see now, in hindsight, that shaming people for not taking that vaccine wasn't right. YOU GUYS DIDN'T SAVE THE WORLD WITH THAT VAX. But in your hubris, you guys acted like you were given that mandate from heaven, and some still are. The truth, and people that seek it, aren't going to allow yall to write a false history of what happened. What happened was the same as above: Americans allowed these leaders to divide us on fear. I predicted the mandate when Fauci, Biden, and Pelosi were running around saying we can't do something like that in America. It was easy once you saw they had every incentive to lay the blame on the unvaccinated because they needed to diffuse/deflect blame from themselves for allowing us to be poisoned in the first place. Remember: pandemics come and go; they don't run through your population repeatedly for going on 5 years now. Guess I'll talk to you in the 25th year of the "pandemic", afterwhich, surely you'll come to the same conclusion as me: it's not a pandemic, but a new, engineered sickness humanity must deal with. Not only were we poisoned, but all of your future generations have been.

    Have you read any of the 1st A, Federalist Papers, or dozens of SCOTUS cases involving speech? If you did, you should know that in America, there is no such thing as a federal "request" to "control" speech.

    Who is the person that decides what misinformation is? Who is this ultrawise, altruistic person that gets to "control" what I say?

    Get to the rest later...
     
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    Then you explain why everyone of these charges could have been implemented 3 years ago but their precise timing was coordinated to coincide with the 24 election in which Democrats have no hope unless Trump is disqualified!
     
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    One for sure that I know of.
     
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    Okay - so how does that feel? To not feel safe with the current administration?
     
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    One that you believe. But your belief is based on lies that you have accepted as truth.
     
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    Trump has made completely unfounded accusations of serious crimes with absolutely no follow through. Repeatedly. I can give you examples alllllllll day long. His favourite accusation is of course treason
    As to voter fraud. I think you have identified the problem: other than the two poll workers that Trump directly named and accused of fraud who are now 148 million dollars richer for it (thank you fall guy Giuliani) Trump has not named names. don't you think he would have more of a case for election fraud if he did name names? Rather than his vague "people tell me..." explanations? That is the problem, three years later and the goalposts are constantly shifting as to where the alleged voter fraud lies. As soon as one narrative is thoroughly debunked another cockamamie one pops up. remember when the Arizona ballots were analysed to see if the paper was made from bamboo? I do....
     
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    or of course truth that you claim to be lies.
     

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