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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Dec 31, 2023.

  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Opinion? No, it's a fact that qualification is a civil matter. You're arguing with your opinion, not reality. Good luck!!!
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump was, in fact, defeated at the polls, and he attempted to overturn that result. There is no reason to believe that he will accept any democratic verdict that does not put him back into power. If that is not disqualifying, what is?"
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think what Trump's defenders continue to miss in their myopic focus on the events of January 6th, is that even if the riot had not happened a case can be made for Trump's insurrection based solely on the multifaceted plot that he helped design and carry out.
     
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    Exactly !!! The "plot" itself was the problem...and disqualifying. And HE created the plot. and is RESPONSIBLE for it. ( and of course the events that unfolded) The buck really DOES stop with POTUS.....For some bizarre reason , T's supporters make him an exception. ergo alternate reality .
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The claim that congressional implementation is needed is the easiest to debunk. Several constitutional scholars and the majority opinion in the Colorado case have concluded that 14:3 is, in legal parlance, “self-executing” — that is, it can be applied by its own terms without the need for implementing legislation.

    But if you want congressional action, it’s right there! Majorities of both the House and the Senate voted in 2021 in the second impeachment proceeding that former President Trump was guilty of exactly the conduct proscribed by 14:3, conduct clearly stated in the Article of Impeachment, which was titled “Incitement of Insurrection.”

    Of course, after impeachment by the House, the Senate did not vote to convict by the required two-thirds; that would have automatically precluded a second term. But let’s not forget or ignore that 57 senators did vote to convict, endorsing a finding that Trump had engaged in conduct covered by 14:3.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4392204-the-legal-case-for-trumps-disqualification-is-clear/

    The impeachment vote met the standard of a guilty verdict in a civil trial.
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we should deprive you of your vote because section 2 likewise doesn’t call for a conviction.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depriving me of my vote is essentially what Trump tried to do when he carried out his plot to subvert the will of those who voted for Biden. You know, the majority of Americans.
     
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    And now Cori Bush is under criminal investigation.
     
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    She's doing a Fanni with he campaign money because SHE need's "security" while defunding everyone else’s. Too rich..
     
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    I was wondering if she was humping her security guy when I saw how much money she was shoveling to him, and sure enough, now one of them is her husband.

    I guess you don't need dating sites when you command taxpayer funds.
     
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    And he never had the REQUIRED private security license.

    And now I read Stacy Adams group after blowing through over $100,000,000 can't pay it's bills. Think we will ever see an accounting for that money?
     
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    Why would your vote have been discarded under anything Trump was doing? Did you vote illegally?
     
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    The US taxpayer is getting robbed in every direction and the corrupt FBI is going after Catholics and School Board Moms?
     
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    Think Fanni will go after her........:roflol:
     

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