The Leader-Of-The-Free-World Stumbles

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  1. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    These current conflicts are due to America and the world putting off a conflict and letting it grow from a molehill to a mountain and it comes barreling out the door.

    These conflicts are a result of the USA and the world putting conflicts off and not dealing with these problems before they become large and a threat.

    Peace doesn't mean an end to conflict. It just means a delay as the enemy builds up its forces.

    The post-World War 2 world thought they had solved humanitarian disasters by just seeking a peaceful solution, but that turned out to be a mistake. Wars continue, conflicts continue, and the money that pours into the enemies' pockets from humanitarian donations doesn't go to humanitarian causes in the afflicted countries. It goes to building up troops for war.

    So, the arguments that Biden isn't doing enough are wrong. Biden is doing exactly what he should be doing, which is to support our allies while holding them to a standard.

    And the arguments that Biden is doing too much are also wrong because that would lead to only a delay and regrouping of our enemies' forces.

    Russia needs to be contained in Ukraine because they have bigger ambitions across Europe.

    Hamas needs to be destroyed because they won't stop warring with Israel.

    Iran and company need to be stopped because they are a global threat.

    And I could go on...

    All of these conflicts around the world are also interconnected, with the same groups behind the scenes getting involved in each other's business, and we are continuing to find evidence of their interconnected support.

    Peace is not the answer to this problem, and neither is blind war. Targeted conflict with a purpose and intelligence abilities to think smart are the answers.
     
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    All of these conflicts are interconnected but the root cause is the same, United State has lost its power by selling itself to China.
     
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    Fortunately for the United States, China has very real problems with its economy. China thought it was hot stuff, and their corrupt government could continue business as usual, growing their power and moving up as a global superpower. But, economic problems at home and falling out of favor on the international stage have left them on a downward trend. Their corrupt communist government can only lie on inked paper for so long before the real-world consequences catch up to them. At some point, you have to face the truth.
     
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    The Leader-Of-The-Free-World Stumbles

    Fortunately he doesn't lead the free world or even the U.S. federal administration for that matter. Heck, I stumble from time to time also. These things come with age.
     
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    You do realize that all these conflicts are a direct result us the US pulling out of the Iran Nuclear deal, right?
     
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    I do not.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The US is "putting conflicts off"?

    That is a false statement. Nuland, McCain, Kerry and a load of others from the federal government overthrew the legitimate government of Ukraine in 2014. That caused Russia to eventually invade.

    The US government, as MLK noted decades ago, is the largest purveyor of violence in the world. Wake up and smell the napalm sir.
     
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    How did we overthrow the Ukraine government? Where were the troop deployments? How was the "legitimate" government of Ukraine overthrown in a free and fair election?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Troop deployments? Aren't you aware of covert actions?
     
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    Why don't you explain to everyone what covert actions you're talking about and how you know them?
     
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    Not entirely, but that certainly didn't help matters.

    But I look at the current turmoil as the new Axis of Evil fighting the collective western democracies and our control over the rest of the world, such as it is. I mean, the dictators in Iran, Russia, China and elsewhere would love it if our military wasn't nearby and we couldn't sanction them, if they could invade neighboring countries with impunity, and so on. Ol' Putler isn't too pleased with what a fiasco is 3-day war in Ukraine has turned into, for instance.

    The attempts to disrupt global trade through the Red Sea hurt Europe especially, as they import a lot of goods, including oil, through there. It will also drive up oil prices and create all sorts of inflationary pressures, and Russia and friends will use that to fund their war efforts and to harm Biden and other pro-Ukraine and pro-Israel western leaders, to help them sow discord in our societies, to boost Trump in the coming election, and so on. And if they can get Trump back in office, they will achieve something great indeed for their side, since he is such an idiot and an isolationist, not to mention an overt insurrectionist and a petty dictator in his own right.
     
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    I used to think that such BS would require them to be paid by the Russian government, but the conspiracy theorists help Russia for free. Intervention or hands off? We have potent counterexamples in the last century. Hands off made things worse in world war 2, but would have been better in vietnam. Which is Ukraine more like? A big imperialistic country swallowing up a smaller one... hmm. Seems more like early world war 2. Hitler was unchecked and made early free gains. Let's not make the same mistake with Putin.
     
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    Only a Trump dead ender or a Russian bot would try and pretend that the Russian invastion of Ukraine was caused by Ukraine standing up to Moscow in 2014.
     
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    So does Trump.

    Indeed, the largely murmured support for Putin in Ukraine in the US comes from Trump’s deplorables.
     
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    The oil market is oversupplied right now, says S&P Global's Dan Yergin


    Expect a soft landing in 2024: Wolfe Research's Stephanie Roth


    Let's go, Joe!
     
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    Why don't YOU explain to everyone how overthrowing legitimate governments around the world, including Ukraine, makes the US government the Johnny Appleseed of democracy?
     
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    If you wish to broaden your horizons and knowledge base, you should consider watching Oliver Stone's documentary Ukraine On Fire. That's a long shot, I know.

    Ukraine's legitimately elected government was overthrown in 2014. Ukraine didn't "stand up" to Moscow that year, its government was overthrown by US agents, including State Department player Victoria Nuland, herself of Ukrainian descent. Comically, she was recorded on phone calls saying, among other things, "**** the EU". She was assisted by John McCain the war monger, John Kerry and others working for Barack Obama.

    Russia tried to resolve the matter diplomatically, but the US would have none of it. The Minsk Agreement was forged, and years later German leaders admitted that the only reason they signed it was to allow Ukraine to be armed by NATO, to gain time.

    Uninformed and indoctrinated Americans are such a drag.
     
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    And you think the U.S. is overthrowing the Ukraine government? Bizarre.
     
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    It overthrew it back in 2014. That was the successful goal of Nuland, McCain, (obviously Obama) Kerry and the rest. 2 years ago Merkel of Germany admitted in public that there was no intention to obey the Minsk agreements, that they did it to buy time so that the puppet government installed by Nuland would have time to arm and fight Russia.
     
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    So why was the Ukraine government overthrown without any mention of that in the press? Did the U.S. manage the government government or install a puppet regime.? If so, I missed that as well.
     
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    Because the mainstream media is in on the deception, silly man. If one trusts the MSM today, one is really credulous.

    It's easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.
     
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    The Leader-Of-The-Free-World Stumbles

    I'm almost as old as Biden and I stumble also. Not a problem. I'm also pretty handy with a chainsaw and shovel. The problem is the dementia. This is criticism of the wrong thing.
     

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